On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 18:02:45 -0400 fz <franzzappuccino [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> wrote: > What do I *actually* need systemd for??? Clearly, you don't /need/ systemd. But I've made my peace with it (Debian) and have come to appreciate some aspects of it. o Systemd units are more systematic than ad-hoc shell scripts for starting and stopping services. They're likely to do locking and pidfile creation correctly and safely. o Relieving services from having to daemonize themselves means the daemonizing code is written once, correctly, instead of many times, possibly incorrectly. Systemd also annoys me some times. When I'm shutting down my computer, do I *really* care if network interfaces are shut down gracefully? No, I do not. Just shut the damn thing down! Ultimately, it's a matter of taste. If you prefer sysvinit, then Devuan is fine. If you consider sysvinit to be newfangled unnecessary garbages, there's always FreeBSD. Regards, Dianne. To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscribe [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org To get help send a blank message to linux+help [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org