Hey, I'm a serial lurker on OCLUG or whatever it's called these days.
I recently climbed out from under systemd and have found Devuan to be
the current sweet spot for people who like autonomy, yet have access to
the large GNU ecosystem. I'm talking server side, but I know a guy
running it on the desktop too. It's basically Debian, without systemd.
(install Debian, then run a few scripts, found on the Devuan.org
website, which rip out systemd and put in eudev. Then point to the
Devuan repositories and install whatever).
I used to run Ubuntu everywhere/desktop/server, I'm an applications
programmer, but then for various reasons got my fingers into more system
level activities and realized the hot mess of systemd was blocking me,
and nearly incomprehensible, closely followed by all the rest of the
commercialization of Ubuntu. So I moved to Debian, then on my friend's
suggestion tried Devuan, to find it highly compatible, but I still had
my hands on the steering wheel to do what I wanted.
Currently I'm configuring a webserver with nginx/maria/php etc all the
open/non proprietary stuff on Devuan in the cloud (digital ocean) and
... it works. Just compare a list of running services on whatever you're
using to Devuan, and draw your own conclusions.
Imho, you get all the benefits without all the strings attached of the
big players deciding what you need and how you should use it. I've used
CentOS before to setup an IBM qRadar installation, and ... it was
nightmarish, just like all things IBM. Again, IMHO, if you don't really
NEED the compatibility to, who knows what, your clients, or your own
legacy data/systems, why would you want all the bloat and worse, the
uncertainty that IBM, Poettering, or others just decide to go a new
horrible commercial way next year? Gnome 3 anyone? Did anyone really
want systemd?
It's happening a lot lately.
On 2021-07-14 10:49 a.m., Michael P. Soulier wrote:
Debian works fine for me. :)
Mike
On 2021-07-14 10:19 a.m., Alan McKay wrote:
Picking up this old thread ... was just looking at a bunch of things
and as much as I dislike Oracle (and what they did to Sun) I have to
say this is a pretty compelling story for anyone looking for an
alternative to CentOS now that "Stream" has been announced
https://linux.oracle.com/switch/centos/
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