Hey, I'm a serial lurker on OCLUG or whatever it's called these days.
I recently climbed out from under systemd and have found Devuan to be the current sweet spot for people who like
autonomy, yet have access to the large GNU ecosystem. I'm talking server side, but I know a guy running it on the
desktop too. It's basically Debian, without systemd. (install Debian, then run a few scripts, found on the Devuan.org
website, which rip out systemd and put in eudev. Then point to the Devuan repositories and install whatever).
I used to run Ubuntu everywhere/desktop/server, I'm an applications programmer, but then for various reasons got my
fingers into more system level activities and realized the hot mess of systemd was blocking me, and nearly
incomprehensible, closely followed by all the rest of the commercialization of Ubuntu. So I moved to Debian, then on my
friend's suggestion tried Devuan, to find it highly compatible, but I still had my hands on the steering wheel to do
what I wanted.
Currently I'm configuring a webserver with nginx/maria/php etc all the open/non proprietary stuff on Devuan in the cloud
(digital ocean) and ... it works. Just compare a list of running services on whatever you're using to Devuan, and draw
your own conclusions.
Imho, you get all the benefits without all the strings attached of the big players deciding what you need and how you
should use it. I've used CentOS before to setup an IBM qRadar installation, and ... it was nightmarish, just like all
things IBM. Again, IMHO, if you don't really NEED the compatibility to, who knows what, your clients, or your own legacy
data/systems, why would you want all the bloat and worse, the uncertainty that IBM, Poettering, or others just decide to
go a new horrible commercial way next year? Gnome 3 anyone? Did anyone really want systemd?
It's happening a lot lately.
On 2021-07-14 10:49 a.m., Michael P. Soulier wrote:
Debian works fine for me. :)
Mike
On 2021-07-14 10:19 a.m., Alan McKay wrote:
Picking up this old thread ... was just looking at a bunch of things
and as much as I dislike Oracle (and what they did to Sun) I have to
say this is a pretty compelling story for anyone looking for an
alternative to CentOS now that "Stream" has been announced
https://linux.oracle.com/switch/centos/
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