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Re: OSCAR Call for Talks

Just in case the e-mail was lost somehow, this were my common cents :-):
My view on this process as of an outsider, is that government medical officials certify the whole system in general. This brings the next point that the companies may chose a certain OS as a base for the system which is in it's turn is based on the cost of development, possible maintenance, tools availability, components certification status, components stability and several other factors. This, in turn, brings a point that using OSS solution in particularly medical systems looks similar to using them in other areas such as networking/car industry/aviation/manufacturing/etc and depends on particular area equipment nature, certification (needed/not needed, easy to do/better not even start) process, so on, so on.
Just my two common cents,

And also, here is the possible reading on Manitoba certification of the medical information systems:
https://sharedhealthmb.ca/services/digital-health/electronic-medical-records/

Some generic thoughts on certified systems:
It is likely that any OS to be used in medicine needs to be "certified". This process might be from "tedious" to "practically impossible" depending on the requirements. To go through the process the group or company needs to be strongly motivated. The company is usually motivated by a possible income that any certified system brings.

If there is a desired wish to certify Linux in general or any particular distribution not associated with a company that supports it, then this process just needs to be done as most things in OpenSource: if you want it done, do it yourself and then publish it.

Regards,
/Dmitriy

/Dmitriy

On Fri, 26 Aug, 2022 at 9:51 AM, Katherine Mcmillan <kmcmi046 [ at ] uottawa [ dot ] ca> wrote:
Hello all,

Thank you for your interest and feedback! Dr. David Chan will be presenting to us on OSCAR EMR at next week's User Group meeting. He will be the best person to give us the history and tackle questions related to this open source Electronic Medical Record system.

I'm also not going to act cool and well-connected. My hands are still shaking from receiving the email this morning from Dr. Chan.

Sincerely,
Katie


From: Rick Leir <rleir [ at ] leirtech [ dot ] com>
Sent: 26 August 2022 08:21
To: Katherine Mcmillan <kmcmi046 [ at ] uottawa [ dot ] ca>; Znoteer <znoteer [ at ] mailbox [ dot ] org>; Linux-Ottawa <linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org>
Subject: Re: OSCAR [linux] Call for Talks

Attention : courriel externe | external email
Hi Katie and all,
There is technical interest, clearly.

But also business and career development interest, and that will make your Professional Development Club happy. TelusHealth is making big bucks in their business, and OSS competitors could do very well in grabbing a bite of the pie.
Cheers
Rick

On August 25, 2022 10:55:07 p.m. EDT, Katherine Mcmillan <kmcmi046 [ at ] uottawa [ dot ] ca> wrote:
Hi Znoteer,

Thank you for this! I agree, this would be an interesting topic - and seems pretty relevant right at the moment.

This is one of those topics that brings about basic questions, such as: why are different EMR systems being used by different provinces/territories? How/Why did OSCAR come to be? Why is something like open-source OSCAR highly regarded in BC (they even have a co-op group called "OpenOSP" with lovely board members, I recommend checking them out), but little known elsewhere, and I think is referred to as "Unofficial", "Unlicensed" or some other "Un" adjective in Ontario (unlike the, for example, official Telus systems)? Who is doing the health systems software licensing/approval process in different provinces/territories? Then, of course, other questions arise.

I think if an OSS user group (which presumably has more expertise in software, open source development, licensing, etc.) has such a topic/discussion, this could theoretically push politicians to ask the same basic questions, which would be wonderful for everyone. Anyway, sorry to get political, my interest in this topic is more technical in nature 😄

Sincerely,
Katie
From: Znoteer <znoteer [ at ] mailbox [ dot ] org>
Sent: 25 August 2022 22:17
To: Linux-Ottawa <linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org>
Subject: Re: OSCAR [linux] Call for Talks

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On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 12:26:17AM +0000, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:
> Hello all,

> On a side note, I have reached out to the OSCAR BC mailing list to see if I can get someone to speak to us about their use of Linux and the OSCAR EMR (ex. someone with a current support business, physician, etc.). To my surprise, I am finding more use of FreeBSD and OpenBSD than I was expecting! (It is possible that people with this stack are more inclined to reach out to me). Would everyone be okay with a presentation on open-source OSCAR on a *BSD? To be honest, this is a very surprising finding for me, and even questions like "why OpenBSD and not Linux?" would be very interesting!

This Montreal lurker would tune in to the remote part of a hybrid meeting on OSCAR. I'd never heard of it.

You'd probably think it not surprising that someone from MTL might not have heard of an EMR system used in Ont and BC, but I lived in BC from 1997-2011 :)

It would be interesting to hear more about free software use in EMR. (/me wonders if OSCAR is used/usable in Qc's Health (don't really) Care System)

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