As far as Internet exchanges with more peering options - perhaps you'd give these guys a look: - https://purecolo.ca/ (Multi carrier data-centre, on OGIX Internet exchange: https://ogix.ca/ ) - https://dnsnetworks.com/en/corporate-cloud-solution.html (Hosting with pure-colo) Any ideas on using this provider? (testimonials or other analysis - please email me private if you've worked with them and/or have some stats on OGIX traffic.) Perhaps that is closer in line to where you might host a server if your end-goal is to peer with more providers to reduce your ping times (ms) and thus delay for multi-media collab in NCR/Canada region. According to this article - OGIX is the successor to OTTIX (and has multiple ISP): - https://obj.ca/article/techopia-ottawa-doesnt-have-internet-exchange-point-heres-why-thats-problem - https://ca.linkedin.com/company/igs-hawkesbury?trk=similar-pages_result-card_full-click - https://ca.linkedin.com/company/storm-internet?trk=similar-pages_result-card_full-click The question might be is there a way to confirm ping times across multiple member ISP (Bell to Rogers, TekSavvy to Storm, etc.) Thanks, Allan Fields ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenny B" <kennyonfacebook [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> To: "Ian! D. Allen" <idallen [ at ] idallen [ dot ] ca> Cc: linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2021 9:14:33 AM Subject: Re: [linux] Ottawa lack of IXP peering I've heard about JackTrip but haven't tried it. Hadn't heard of jamulus before. The first doc below says 25 ms round trip is a critical threshold, second one says it's not adequate, so that's maybe a rough guideline. 25 ms round trip is like sitting 14 feet apart. Social distance plus! JackTrip software allows musicians to sync performances online | Stanford News <https://news.stanford.edu/2020/09/18/jacktrip-software-allows-musicians-sync-performances-online/> JackTrip: Under the Hood of an Engine for Network Audio (stanford.edu) <https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jcaceres/publications/PDFs/conferences/2009-caceres_chafe-ICMC-jacktrip.pdf> I've done a little pinging and was a bit disappointed. Thanks for posting this, I'm encouraged again. I'm on teksavvy. On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 3:53 AM Ian! D. Allen <idallen [ at ] idallen [ dot ] ca> wrote: > Just heard about SyncSpace.live and their ability to host live ensemble > music sessions (delay 10ms or less) using Jamulus/JackTrip to servers > placed in some cities. > > Ottawa has a server but, alas, only Bell peers with it. > > "Known issues with Internet routing: Some of the issues we are aware of > with ISPs failing to keep local traffic local: > > Ottawa, Canada; Rogers, TekSavvy, CanNet, Acanac, Start, and Virgin > route all traffic via Toronto (or worse). If you or any people in your > ensemble are using one of these ISPs it’s probably best to use a > Toronto server. Bell will route directly to our Ottawa servers with 2 > – 5ms roundtrip network latency. It seems Videotron is also good." > > Distributel also routes via Montreal and then Toronto. > > What can we do to get local Ottawa ISPs to peer with each other? > > -- > | Ian! D. Allen, BA, MMath - idallen [ at ] idallen [ dot ] ca - Ottawa, Ontario, > Canada > | Home: www.idallen.com Contact Improvisation Dance: > www.contactimprov.ca > | Former college professor (Free/Libre GNU+Linux) at: > teaching.idallen.com > | Defend digital freedom: http://eff.org/ and have fun: > http://fools.ca/ > > To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscribe [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org > To get help send a blank message to linux+help [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org > To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org > > To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscribe [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org To get help send a blank message to linux+help [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org