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Re: [OCLUG-Tech] what's the state of the art for linux (openwrt?) based wireless routers?

  • Subject: Re: [OCLUG-Tech] what's the state of the art for linux (openwrt?) based wireless routers?
  • From: Mike Hopper <mjhopper [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com>
  • Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:47:21 +0000
I meant pfsense does more than the *-WRTs. All kinds of plugin modules like
antivirus and such. Cool stuff.

And ya...I felt kind of dirty suggesting a BSD based solution on here!

-Mike


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Alex Pilon <alp [ at ] alexpilon [ dot ] ca> wrote:

> > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Robert P. J. Day <rpjday [ at ] crashcourse [ dot ] ca
> >wrote:
> > > friend wants to buy a wireless router […] i haven't looked at the
> > > possibilities in a while -- any suggestions for a state-of-the-art
> > > wireless router for which there is ready support for reflashing with
> > > linux?
>
> On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 04:51:03PM +0000, Mike Hopper wrote:
> > If he REALLY wants something to play with...why not a REAL router?
>
> “Real” router? Like 32-cores of Xeon, 32GiB RAM, 8 NICs, each with 8
> hardware queues and plenty of features to offload work to the card?
>
> No. Just kidding. Those are for carrier-grade telephone switching, but
> sitting around 0.5 load average in the lab. Not wireless anyway.
>
> > Kits from this website are cheap(ish), solid, and you choose the
> > OS:http://store.netgate.com/Desktop-Kits-C82.aspx(there are many more
> > of these sites).
>
> There's also the Soekris. Not exactly state-of-the-art (generic, good
> quality SBCs that have been ought for a few years, or more depending on
> the model). This one,
>
>         http://soekris.com/products/net4826.html
>
> is on sale too. He'd just have to get a mini-PCI wireless adapter.
>
> There's also the RouterBOARDs. Don't bother with MicroTik firmware. It's
> a heavily modified old version of Linux (I heard 2.4 but could be wrong,
> and yes, there's still other carrier grade equipment running 2.4 out
> there). It is not as amenable to hacking as just taking the stock Linux
> source and compiling it yourself (yes, I know this wasn't about the
> software). I'd encourage him to just `make nconfig`, and pay particular
> attention to what's under net and drivers/net, if he still has anything
> to learn.
>
> > Just add a wireless AP or one of their add-on cards
>
> Could also check out this.
>
>         http://www.simplewifi.com/
>
> > and you have a pretty nice router. Throw pfsense
> > (http://www.pfsense.org/) on there and you can do much more than
> > *-WRT.
>
> Heh. Thought this was a Linux list. Not taking sides though… yet.
>
> Did you mean more than the *WRT's custom interfaces allow you to do, or
> more than Linux in general does? If the latter, what in particular?
>
> > > and wants to install one of the common linux-based distros on it
> > > (openwrt, dd-wrt, tomato, whatever).  […] price not that much of an
> > > object, what he wants mostly is the opportunity to hack.
>
> If you *really* want to hack, stay away from all the GUI and
> abstractions, and just use ip6?tables, tc and the rest of iproute2,
> ipset, etc., directly. They're fundamentally simple. At some point,
> these abstractions just get in the way and haven't put a ‘nicer’ (or
> not) interface around feature X, or are otherwise barely concealed
> overhead.  I've never seen the worth of a GUI that just mangles some of
> the concepts, and don't want HTTP or other similar running on my router.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex Pilon
>