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Re: [OCLUG-Tech] what's the state of the art for linux (openwrt?) based wireless routers?

I am going to build a nice router based on BSD soon then build a wireless router on DDwrt I have picked hardware for this yet I will probably go with linksys wl54gl 

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On 2013-08-05, at 2:45 PM, Alex Pilon <alp [ at ] alexpilon [ dot ] ca> wrote:

>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Robert P. J. Day <rpjday [ at ] crashcourse [ dot ] ca>wrote:
>>> friend wants to buy a wireless router […] i haven't looked at the
>>> possibilities in a while -- any suggestions for a state-of-the-art
>>> wireless router for which there is ready support for reflashing with
>>> linux?
> 
> On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 04:51:03PM +0000, Mike Hopper wrote:
>> If he REALLY wants something to play with...why not a REAL router?
> 
> “Real” router? Like 32-cores of Xeon, 32GiB RAM, 8 NICs, each with 8
> hardware queues and plenty of features to offload work to the card?
> 
> No. Just kidding. Those are for carrier-grade telephone switching, but
> sitting around 0.5 load average in the lab. Not wireless anyway.
> 
>> Kits from this website are cheap(ish), solid, and you choose the
>> OS:http://store.netgate.com/Desktop-Kits-C82.aspx(there are many more
>> of these sites).
> 
> There's also the Soekris. Not exactly state-of-the-art (generic, good
> quality SBCs that have been ought for a few years, or more depending on
> the model). This one,
> 
>    http://soekris.com/products/net4826.html
> 
> is on sale too. He'd just have to get a mini-PCI wireless adapter.
> 
> There's also the RouterBOARDs. Don't bother with MicroTik firmware. It's
> a heavily modified old version of Linux (I heard 2.4 but could be wrong,
> and yes, there's still other carrier grade equipment running 2.4 out
> there). It is not as amenable to hacking as just taking the stock Linux
> source and compiling it yourself (yes, I know this wasn't about the
> software). I'd encourage him to just `make nconfig`, and pay particular
> attention to what's under net and drivers/net, if he still has anything
> to learn.
> 
>> Just add a wireless AP or one of their add-on cards
> 
> Could also check out this.
> 
>    http://www.simplewifi.com/
> 
>> and you have a pretty nice router. Throw pfsense
>> (http://www.pfsense.org/) on there and you can do much more than
>> *-WRT.
> 
> Heh. Thought this was a Linux list. Not taking sides though… yet.
> 
> Did you mean more than the *WRT's custom interfaces allow you to do, or
> more than Linux in general does? If the latter, what in particular?
> 
>>> and wants to install one of the common linux-based distros on it
>>> (openwrt, dd-wrt, tomato, whatever).  […] price not that much of an
>>> object, what he wants mostly is the opportunity to hack.
> 
> If you *really* want to hack, stay away from all the GUI and
> abstractions, and just use ip6?tables, tc and the rest of iproute2,
> ipset, etc., directly. They're fundamentally simple. At some point,
> these abstractions just get in the way and haven't put a ‘nicer’ (or
> not) interface around feature X, or are otherwise barely concealed
> overhead.  I've never seen the worth of a GUI that just mangles some of
> the concepts, and don't want HTTP or other similar running on my router.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Alex Pilon
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