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And another consideration is that even if the actual Web server is
in Canada, if the provider is from the US, the US gov. could
potentially still have access to the data as per the CLOUD Act:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act";>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act</a><br>
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Gabriel</pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/3/25 6:41 AM, Eric Marceau via
linux wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:20250203054241 [ dot ] 73487617E9 [ at ] mail [ dot ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org">
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<p>If I can be allowed to pipe in on this discussion ...</p>
<p>To add one final question to all the points I raised in the
email snippet that I pasted (with snapshots of browser toolbar
showing site hosting countries) at the bottom,</p>
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<p><font color="#420094"><b><i>Have Canadians been stupid enough
to set themselves up, <br>
for the wrong reasons, handing over control of our
sovereinty<br>
such that the U.S. could just turn off a switch <br>
and Canada's Government be broken ?</i></b></font></p>
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<p><font color="#420094"> <br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094">Below are snapshots of sites for various
Canadian organizations/agencies/corporations/government,
showing the reported flag of country of cloud-host resicency!
<b>VERY ENLIGHTENING!<br>
</b></font></p>
<p><font color="#420094">I use the "Flagfox" plug-in available at</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://flagfox.wordpress.com/"; moz-do-not-send="true">https://flagfox.wordpress.com/</a></font></p>
<p><font color="#420094">I strongly recommend everyone check their
own stuff and question you Preferred Service Providers, of all
stripes, why they are not fully hosted in Canada?</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094">Here are a few more snaps:</font></p>
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<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part1.4YfaTBTA.jK0QWtMS@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part2.rkgIPFX4.gt006WBV@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part3.Br06h56d.h46Rv4dA@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part4.ZBwUEFpq.Rp6aoifs@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part5.8Nf9Xyss.TZkSu2ii@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part6.GMyYDYo0.zLDDePiM@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part7.OhbMzy2P.FlJbkbqu@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part8.cD0Yf20r.31ZNrlmr@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part9.LB9u01vf.LcvlZkrJ@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part10.wnLFFt62.tLklglUr@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part11.JABxmf1J.0CZLrbh2@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part12.KP0CXy1W.CihYQLgC@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part13.RJHUIV5C.6vq1vU2A@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part14.2wQujKe5.n3tFZNE8@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part15.eZGLSH9i.3ThsoZwQ@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part16.nx77g6J0.vzXO6ZxZ@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part17.CdnbX0lO.DWh0ShOk@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part18.uAZ9O0af.AfFDGS7j@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part19.jZLAui35.HDaO5rrf@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part20.ZHmZdMSa.2BiQ0FuF@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part21.SK4hBiG2.wwQZavDZ@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part22.vpw41WAT.JjS9dvgr@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part23.LFAtOMrb.vvfMHLKj@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part24.I8xdsfUW.avI65Qvc@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part25.hDfBL0Fo.8ukdU7sh@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part26.n0Zs9rnl.zuWxtJx8@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part27.0q0mCK00.ugpTITwH@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part28.KNAsfhVK.OgrgncfA@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part29.X8mdTWBP.bfj8PM0M@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""><br>
</font></p>
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<p><font color="#420094">Definitely not a pretty picture! </font>🙁</p>
<p> reminder of email snippet pasted at bottom (with snapshots of
more browser toolbars showing site hosting countries).</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p><font color="#420094">Eric Marceau, 69, retired</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><b><br>
</b></font></p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2025-02-02 08:49, Michael P.
Soulier via linux wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:20250202135025 [ dot ] 3A1D261811 [ at ] mail [ dot ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org">
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<div dir="auto">Yeah.i figure I should visit first....</div>
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<div dir="auto">On January 30, 2025 6:40:37 p.m. EST, Dianne
Skoll via linux <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org></a>
wrote:</div>
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style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail"><div dir="auto">On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 18:32:26 -0500
"Michael P. Soulier via linux" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org" moz-do-not-send="true"><linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org></a> wrote:
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style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"><div
dir="auto">I'm thinking of moving my VPS to Amsterdam. Feel's safer these days,
but that's likely just my rampant paranoia speaking.
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I am 5% semi-seriously considering moving *myself* to The Netherlands.
Ik ben Nederlands aan het leren... dat is mijn Plan B...
Regards,
Dianne.
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<td>Thu, 2 Sep 2021 22:13:34 -0400</td>
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<th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">From: </th>
<td>Eric Marceau <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:ericmarceau [ at ] rogers [ dot ] com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><ericmarceau [ at ] rogers [ dot ] com></a></td>
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<p>Hello (.... snip ....) </p>
<p><br>
</p>
(.... snip .... unrelated material ...)
<p><font color="#420094">Before I go on to more important stuff, a
small detour, because I noticed this recently:</font></p>
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<p><img src="cid:part30.8YzQ8dxo.sYCtlJKC@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p><img src="cid:part31.6dx4eAa0.CwhXyqPK@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p><img src="cid:part32.VKDMcjRg.N1qtdY0R@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p><img src="cid:part33.XQGg5ylk.VBVcmeCJ@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p><img src="cid:part34.clir2h0a.A3EFkiGK@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p><img src="cid:part35.MxlcrQhu.WavewjS3@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p><img src="cid:part36.1aUwVWMs.0QButp8H@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p><img src="cid:part37.fDn3AR44.hy60TelJ@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p><img src="cid:part38.OOQxdptz.DtfCfVCI@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p><img src="cid:part39.2oeo2Ygr.j5Ng0vua@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p><img src="cid:part40.bQXk24WT.9n0GgIXu@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p><img src="cid:part41.096Ri0bm.wvAF9mwR@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""> <font size="+3">!!!</font><br>
</p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part42.RcmhngQR.wwC40tye@gcossette.com" alt=""
class=""> <font size="+3"> 🙁</font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#420094">By now you are wondering why most large
Canadian Corporations have their systems hosted on US-based
cloud services.</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"> <b>That is just wrong!</b></font></p>
<p><font color="#420094">However, knowing that the NDP is focused
on Canada, why would <b>your</b> Federal Party, choose to
have its web site hosted outside of Canada, shipping all those
high-tech jobs down south ???</font></p>
<font color="#420094"> I can imagine a whole spectrum of privacy
issues deriving from that.<br>
US laws are applicable to the content, NOT Canadian.<br>
Do you want US monitoring, possibly tampering with, internal
Canadian political instruments? <br>
Haven't they done so too much already ?<br>
<br>
On this point: data about and for Canadians SHOULD, AND MUST,
reside on servers physically located in Canada, and that data
should never find its way onto a system in the legal
jurisdiction of a foreign country. <b><br>
</b></font>
<p><font color="#420094"><b> And having government systems running
of a US-based cloud ???</b></font></p>
<font color="#420094"> <br>
</font>
<p><font color="#420094"> Food for serious thought ...</font></p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>(.... snip .... unrelated material ...)</p>
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