Thanks so much for sending this Dmitriy, it’s very helpful. -Katie ________________________________ From: Dmitriy Korovkin <dnkorovkin [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 8:46:28 PM To: Linux-Ottawa <linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org> Subject: [linux] Meeting chats Attention : courriel externe | external email Colleagues, as requested, here is the chat log: far https://imgflip.com/i/3sfi6r far says:that sounded clear 19:04 JF Messier JF Messier says:I can hear you JF Messier says:👍 19:10 Rob-ish Enterprise quote Rob-ish Enterprise quote says:Lots of people are blaming Red Hat. I would blame IBM, or, perhaps "I Blame Mercantilism (IBM)". 19:23 far far says:RockyLinux has core developer from CentOS project - so a critical mass could be said to exist at this time to carry it forward as a stable option - merging changes as necessary 19:40 Ian M Ian M says:I have been using Ubuntu for the last 2 1/2 years, currently 22.04.1 with 5.15.0-52-generic kernel on a Ryzen 5 3600. This is for personal use, I am quite happy with it. 19:46 far far says:There are differences in library support, package names/dependencies and gcc/glibc in terms when going from CentOS to Ubuntu server - however 1) many packages are binary rpm 2) recompiling to Ubuntu has a few differences if config/make doesn't find them already for particular code. Ubuntu can deliver newer pkg in some cases, but that might cause an issue for some older code 19:46 Rob Echlin, exploring stuff Rob Echlin, exploring stuff says:Thanks, Richard, for clarifying that the changes to CentOS were so soon after IBM buy of RH. 19:46 far far says:Use KVM/qemu and libvirt to host Ubuntu22 for checking compat 19:48 Rob Echlin, exploring stuff Rob Echlin, exploring stuff says:Is there such a thing as a set of guides for migrating between each of the major Linux versions? 19:49 JF Messier JF Messier says:When choosing between Ubuntu (or other Debian-based OS) and RedHat (or other OS based on it), this is something that gets more important as the number of servers grows. 19:53 far far says:In some federal env there are both RedHat/CentOS and Ubuntu 19:54 JF Messier JF Messier says:There are also SLES-based depts too. JF Messier says:This gets interesting when supporting different distros of linux that have their own ways of managing the packages, as well as managing the licenses. 19:56 Ian M Ian M says:If you don't mind a rather dry read, try this tome... Ian M says: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust 20:01 far far says: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Linux 20:01 JF Messier JF Messier says:Red Hat offers free accounts for up to 16 servers, provided that those are using the LATEST version, and that there is no formal support (like you cannot open an incident). You have access to some knowledge base, but that's about it. 20:05 far far says:Some users of centos include HPC as the licensing costs add up when you have 256 servers in a cluster. 20:06 JF Messier JF Messier says:It should still be available to developers, AFAIK. JF Messier says:👍 JF Messier says:Select the text with the mouse, copy/paste in a text editor and save. JF Messier says:Not very nice text, would require *some* formatting. JF Messier says:I would recommend considering Mint. I use it as my main driver for multiple hings, including VMs and VPNs and it works very well. JF Messier says:Things change a lot over 4 years 😃 20:12 far far says:How often does gentoo portage have to be update before it is a major chore? far says:Is it now stable enough to emerge after a long time with-out fearing it gets stuck 20:14 Rob Echlin, exploring stuff Rob Echlin, exploring stuff says:Rocky Linux: Looking at the web site, I found, in the FAQ, that there is indeed a foundation, with the intent that no one entity or org can control it. Also, I could not find any way to pay support to Rocky Linux. However, some of the sponsors provide support contracts. 20:20 far far says:Does truth social implement a reputation system or shun it like a communist "truth broadcaster" would? 20:28 JF Messier JF Messier says:@Richard and Katie. You are not muted. We can hear you/ Regards, /Dmitriy