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Re: anyone using a privacy-protecting cell phone

I am reminded of an author who apologized for writing a along letter
because he didn't have time to write a short one.
It can be quite difficult to condense a complex topic down to a concise summary.

On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 05:49, Michael Goguen <michael [ dot ] goguen [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> wrote:
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> Yeah, I didn't get a copy from the list of the message I sent.
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> None of them.
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> But otherwise seeing replies to this message.
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> i didn't reply to user, I changed the reply to linux at linux-ott org
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> ok
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> Sometimes I regret long posts.
> It is nice to be clear at least whether it went through or not.
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> thx
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> Michael
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> On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 9:09 PM Brenda J. Butler <bjb [ at ] sourcerer [ dot ] ca> wrote:
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>> And yes, this is the new (I use that term loosely : -)
>> general discussion list for oclug, the Linux User Group
>> in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.
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>> bjb
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>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 07:41:19PM -0500, John Argus wrote:
>> > Your previous long message did make it to the mailing list.
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>> > jna
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>> > > On Jan 31, 2021, at 14:12, Michael Goguen <michael [ dot ] goguen [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> wrote:
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>> > > 
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>> > >
>> > > test
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>> > > is this a new domain for the old oclug list?  Just making sure I
>> > > am not somehow confusing lists or on a list I didn't subscribe
>> > > to...
>> > >
>> > > I posted a longer post about some potentially contentious or
>> > > contraversial opinions relating to privacy security and
>> > > maintaining a healthy balance for users and regulators who manage
>> > > issues and threats online etc, it didn't seem to make the list, I
>> > > might repost if this one gets through, but maybe I'll just make
>> > > sure I"m ont the right list first...
>> > >
>> > > it is possible I am not ... fully? subscribed to this list if
>> > > there was a changeover...? from the oclug domain?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > thanks in advance.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Michael
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>> > >
>> > >> On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 2:01 PM Michael Goguen <michael [ dot ] goguen [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> > >> From: tOM Trottier <tom [ at ] abacurial [ dot ] com>
>> > >> Date: Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 12:37 AM
>> > >> Subject: Re: [linux] anyone using a privacy-protecting cell phone
>> > >> To: Linux-Ottawa <linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org>
>> > >> Cc: Ian! D. Allen <idallen [ at ] idallen [ dot ] ca>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> See https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2021/01/cell-phone-location-privacy.html
>> > >> "“Pretty Good Phone Privacy” (PGPP) protects both user identity and user location using the existing cellular networks. It protects users from fake cell phone towers (IMSI-catchers) and surveillance by cell providers.
>> > >> It’s a clever system. The players are the user, a traditional mobile network operator (MNO) like AT&T or Verizon, and a new mobile virtual network operator (MVNO). MVNOs aren’t new. They’re intermediaries like Cricket and Boost."
>> > >>
>> > >> -- tOM Trottier
>> > >>
>> > >> On 22 Jan 2021 at 13:15 re:"[linux] anyone using a privacy-prot..."
>> > >>      Ian! D. Allen(Ian! D. Allen <idallen [ at ] idallen [ dot ] ca>) wrote:
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>> > >> > Hello Linux hive-mind -
>> > >> >
>> > >> > A non-tech friend is trying to get out from under Apple and set up her
>> > >> > cell phone and computers without Microsoft, Google, or Apple looking
>> > >> > over her shoulder.  She is concerned about tracking and privacy.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I can give her help with her future Linux desktop, but I don't even
>> > >> > own a cell phone so I can't advise on "Linux" cell phones (or any kind
>> > >> > of cell phones).
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Anyone out there in Linux-land with experience they are willing to share
>> > >> > using a cell phone with good privacy that doesn't track you?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > --
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