I am reminded of an author who apologized for writing a along letter because he didn't have time to write a short one. It can be quite difficult to condense a complex topic down to a concise summary. On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 05:49, Michael Goguen <michael [ dot ] goguen [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> wrote: > > > Yeah, I didn't get a copy from the list of the message I sent. > > None of them. > > But otherwise seeing replies to this message. > > i didn't reply to user, I changed the reply to linux at linux-ott org > > ok > > Sometimes I regret long posts. > It is nice to be clear at least whether it went through or not. > > thx > > > Michael > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 9:09 PM Brenda J. Butler <bjb [ at ] sourcerer [ dot ] ca> wrote: >> >> >> And yes, this is the new (I use that term loosely : -) >> general discussion list for oclug, the Linux User Group >> in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. >> >> bjb >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 07:41:19PM -0500, John Argus wrote: >> > Your previous long message did make it to the mailing list. >> > >> > jna >> > >> > > On Jan 31, 2021, at 14:12, Michael Goguen <michael [ dot ] goguen [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > test >> > > >> > > is this a new domain for the old oclug list? Just making sure I >> > > am not somehow confusing lists or on a list I didn't subscribe >> > > to... >> > > >> > > I posted a longer post about some potentially contentious or >> > > contraversial opinions relating to privacy security and >> > > maintaining a healthy balance for users and regulators who manage >> > > issues and threats online etc, it didn't seem to make the list, I >> > > might repost if this one gets through, but maybe I'll just make >> > > sure I"m ont the right list first... >> > > >> > > it is possible I am not ... fully? subscribed to this list if >> > > there was a changeover...? from the oclug domain? >> > > >> > > >> > > thanks in advance. >> > > >> > > >> > > Michael >> > > >> > > >> > >> On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 2:01 PM Michael Goguen <michael [ dot ] goguen [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> > >> From: tOM Trottier <tom [ at ] abacurial [ dot ] com> >> > >> Date: Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 12:37 AM >> > >> Subject: Re: [linux] anyone using a privacy-protecting cell phone >> > >> To: Linux-Ottawa <linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org> >> > >> Cc: Ian! D. Allen <idallen [ at ] idallen [ dot ] ca> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> See https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2021/01/cell-phone-location-privacy.html >> > >> "“Pretty Good Phone Privacy” (PGPP) protects both user identity and user location using the existing cellular networks. It protects users from fake cell phone towers (IMSI-catchers) and surveillance by cell providers. >> > >> It’s a clever system. The players are the user, a traditional mobile network operator (MNO) like AT&T or Verizon, and a new mobile virtual network operator (MVNO). MVNOs aren’t new. They’re intermediaries like Cricket and Boost." >> > >> >> > >> -- tOM Trottier >> > >> >> > >> On 22 Jan 2021 at 13:15 re:"[linux] anyone using a privacy-prot..." >> > >> Ian! D. Allen(Ian! D. Allen <idallen [ at ] idallen [ dot ] ca>) wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > Hello Linux hive-mind - >> > >> > >> > >> > A non-tech friend is trying to get out from under Apple and set up her >> > >> > cell phone and computers without Microsoft, Google, or Apple looking >> > >> > over her shoulder. She is concerned about tracking and privacy. >> > >> > >> > >> > I can give her help with her future Linux desktop, but I don't even >> > >> > own a cell phone so I can't advise on "Linux" cell phones (or any kind >> > >> > of cell phones). >> > >> > >> > >> > Anyone out there in Linux-land with experience they are willing to share >> > >> > using a cell phone with good privacy that doesn't track you? >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > | Ian! D. 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