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Re: anyone using a privacy-protecting cell phone

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JN



On 2021-01-31 9:09 p.m., Brenda J. Butler wrote:
> 
> And yes, this is the new (I use that term loosely : -)
> general discussion list for oclug, the Linux User Group
> in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.
> 
> bjb
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 07:41:19PM -0500, John Argus wrote:
>> Your previous long message did make it to the mailing list. 
>>
>> jna
>>
>>> On Jan 31, 2021, at 14:12, Michael Goguen <michael [ dot ] goguen [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> test
>>>
>>> is this a new domain for the old oclug list?  Just making sure I
>>> am not somehow confusing lists or on a list I didn't subscribe
>>> to...
>>>
>>> I posted a longer post about some potentially contentious or
>>> contraversial opinions relating to privacy security and
>>> maintaining a healthy balance for users and regulators who manage
>>> issues and threats online etc, it didn't seem to make the list, I
>>> might repost if this one gets through, but maybe I'll just make
>>> sure I"m ont the right list first...
>>>
>>> it is possible I am not ... fully? subscribed to this list if
>>> there was a changeover...? from the oclug domain?
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 2:01 PM Michael Goguen <michael [ dot ] goguen [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> wrote:
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>>>> From: tOM Trottier <tom [ at ] abacurial [ dot ] com>
>>>> Date: Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 12:37 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [linux] anyone using a privacy-protecting cell phone
>>>> To: Linux-Ottawa <linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org>
>>>> Cc: Ian! D. Allen <idallen [ at ] idallen [ dot ] ca>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> See https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2021/01/cell-phone-location-privacy.html
>>>> "“Pretty Good Phone Privacy” (PGPP) protects both user identity and user location using the existing cellular networks. It protects users from fake cell phone towers (IMSI-catchers) and surveillance by cell providers.
>>>> It’s a clever system. The players are the user, a traditional mobile network operator (MNO) like AT&T or Verizon, and a new mobile virtual network operator (MVNO). MVNOs aren’t new. They’re intermediaries like Cricket and Boost."
>>>>
>>>> -- tOM Trottier
>>>>
>>>> On 22 Jan 2021 at 13:15 re:"[linux] anyone using a privacy-prot..."
>>>>      Ian! D. Allen(Ian! D. Allen <idallen [ at ] idallen [ dot ] ca>) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Linux hive-mind -
>>>>>
>>>>> A non-tech friend is trying to get out from under Apple and set up her
>>>>> cell phone and computers without Microsoft, Google, or Apple looking
>>>>> over her shoulder.  She is concerned about tracking and privacy.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can give her help with her future Linux desktop, but I don't even
>>>>> own a cell phone so I can't advise on "Linux" cell phones (or any kind
>>>>> of cell phones).
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone out there in Linux-land with experience they are willing to share
>>>>> using a cell phone with good privacy that doesn't track you?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> | Ian! D. Allen, BA, MMath  -  idallen [ at ] idallen [ dot ] ca - Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>>>>> | Home: www.idallen.com   Contact Improvisation Dance: www.contactimprov.ca
>>>>> | Former college professor (Free/Libre GNU+Linux) at:  teaching.idallen.com
>>>>> | Defend digital freedom:  http://eff.org/  and have fun:  http://fools.ca/
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