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Re: [OCLUG-Tech] more emphasis on online tutorials as opposed to meetings?

  • Subject: Re: [OCLUG-Tech] more emphasis on online tutorials as opposed to meetings?
  • From: Rob Echlin <rob [ at ] echlin [ dot ] ca>
  • Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 15:47:46 -0800 (PST)
Hi Greg,
I agree that if I know what people are doing, it is way easier to ask them to present on it.

However, I don't see how any particular convener, such as myself, can find out what even 10% of the (?how may? 500? more?) people on the OCLUG mail list are doing. Many of them (more than 1/3 is my guess) would come to a meeting to present if asked, especially for a lightning talk.

If you have suggestions in this area, I am very interested.
For instance, if you are hooked up with even 10 people, I would be interested in what technology they are working with.

For all the other people on this list who are looking at this and feel creeped out that I am proposing spying on people:
- you too can let me know what your buddies are doing!
- Just don't tell me who is doing it, OK?
- let me know the list of topics you have
- you can check with them in advance of telling me


> From: Greg <sphex [ at ] sympatico [ dot ] ca>
>To: Ottawa Linux Users Group <linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca> 
>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 3:45:31 PM
>Subject: Re: [OCLUG-Tech] more emphasis on online tutorials as opposed to meetings?
>All this would suggest that the convenor, instead of asking for random
>volunteers, should be aware of what people are doing and/or documenting,
>and ask directly individuals to speak and to discuss.  It would work
>around the perception common of many doers that nobody else would be
>interested in what they do.  Also the process would be come more
>friendly to people who can only suggest topics for other people to
>present.  Finally, informal clouds of people who do things and people
>who read things and people who participate in other ways could submit
>suggestions feeling they are submitting suggestions not impositions.
>Rob Echlin wrote:
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Robert P. J. Day <rpjday [ at ] crashcourse [ dot ] ca>
>>> To: Richard Guy Briggs <rgb [ at ] tricolour [ dot ] net> 
>>> Cc: Ottawa Linux Users Group <linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca> 
>>> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 9:08:38 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [OCLUG-Tech] more emphasis on online tutorials as opposed to meetings?
>>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 02:22:48PM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>>>>>    for instance, after rob e. mentioned the raspberry pi, i offered
>>>>> to demo how easy it is to build a bootable image for one using
>>>>> openembedded and the publicly-available meta-raspberrypi layer.
>>>>> but it so happens i've already written that up and it's available
>>>>> at my wiki (might need a bit of updating but should still work):
>>>>>  http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Building_basic_RPi_image
>>>>> so there's not much point using meeting time to explain something
>>>>> that anyone can read at their leisure at my web site.
>>>> You may not see much point, but different people learn in different
>>>> ways and different people get different things out of in-person
>>>> meetings.
>>>   just to be clear, i wasn't suggesting there was no need for
>>> meetings; i was suggesting that, after pondering, i didn't see much
>>> value in my presenting a lightning talk about using openembedded for
>>> building an image for a raspberry pi since i'd already described the
>>> process in detail on a web page.
>>>   the point i'm suggesting is that, if someone proposes an interesting
>>> topic, one need not always wait for a meeting to cover it.  if someone
>>> knows of a good web page, or wants to write one, on that topic, that
>>> might be the solution.
>>> rday
>> Hi Rob Day,
>> I agree with Richard.
>> There are many reasons why people go to a presentation by you at OCLUG,
>> either instead of or as well as reading the process on your web site.
>> - better fits their learning style
>> - ask you related questions or followup questions, while you have the computer handy
>> - meet other people with similar interests
>> - go to see if its worth while asking the boss to hire you to do some training
>> - they set aside time for the meeting, but haven't set aside separate time for learning about that subject
>> - they want to debate the value of changing some element in the process, or using a completely different process
>> The point is, if someone proposes an interesting topic, any individual who needs it for work, now, can go to the web and find related info  before the meeitng.
>> The interesting topic is still interesting as a presentation at the meeting.
>> Cheers!
>> Rob Echlin
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