Hi Greg, I agree that if I know what people are doing, it is way easier to ask them to present on it. However, I don't see how any particular convener, such as myself, can find out what even 10% of the (?how may? 500? more?) people on the OCLUG mail list are doing. Many of them (more than 1/3 is my guess) would come to a meeting to present if asked, especially for a lightning talk. If you have suggestions in this area, I am very interested. For instance, if you are hooked up with even 10 people, I would be interested in what technology they are working with. For all the other people on this list who are looking at this and feel creeped out that I am proposing spying on people: - you too can let me know what your buddies are doing! - Just don't tell me who is doing it, OK? - let me know the list of topics you have - you can check with them in advance of telling me Thanks, Rob >________________________________ > From: Greg <sphex [ at ] sympatico [ dot ] ca> >To: Ottawa Linux Users Group <linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca> >Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 3:45:31 PM >Subject: Re: [OCLUG-Tech] more emphasis on online tutorials as opposed to meetings? > >All this would suggest that the convenor, instead of asking for random >volunteers, should be aware of what people are doing and/or documenting, >and ask directly individuals to speak and to discuss. It would work >around the perception common of many doers that nobody else would be >interested in what they do. Also the process would be come more >friendly to people who can only suggest topics for other people to >present. Finally, informal clouds of people who do things and people >who read things and people who participate in other ways could submit >suggestions feeling they are submitting suggestions not impositions. > >Greg > > >Rob Echlin wrote: >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Robert P. J. Day <rpjday [ at ] crashcourse [ dot ] ca> >>> To: Richard Guy Briggs <rgb [ at ] tricolour [ dot ] net> >>> Cc: Ottawa Linux Users Group <linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca> >>> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 9:08:38 AM >>> Subject: Re: [OCLUG-Tech] more emphasis on online tutorials as opposed to meetings? >>> >>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Richard Guy Briggs wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 02:22:48PM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >>>>> for instance, after rob e. mentioned the raspberry pi, i offered >>>>> to demo how easy it is to build a bootable image for one using >>>>> openembedded and the publicly-available meta-raspberrypi layer. >>>>> but it so happens i've already written that up and it's available >>>>> at my wiki (might need a bit of updating but should still work): >>>>> >>>>> http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Building_basic_RPi_image >>>>> >>>>> so there's not much point using meeting time to explain something >>>>> that anyone can read at their leisure at my web site. >>>> You may not see much point, but different people learn in different >>>> ways and different people get different things out of in-person >>>> meetings. >>> just to be clear, i wasn't suggesting there was no need for >>> meetings; i was suggesting that, after pondering, i didn't see much >>> value in my presenting a lightning talk about using openembedded for >>> building an image for a raspberry pi since i'd already described the >>> process in detail on a web page. >>> >>> >>> the point i'm suggesting is that, if someone proposes an interesting >>> topic, one need not always wait for a meeting to cover it. if someone >>> knows of a good web page, or wants to write one, on that topic, that >>> might be the solution. >>> >>> rday >> >> >> Hi Rob Day, >> I agree with Richard. >> There are many reasons why people go to a presentation by you at OCLUG, >> either instead of or as well as reading the process on your web site. >> - better fits their learning style >> - ask you related questions or followup questions, while you have the computer handy >> - meet other people with similar interests >> - go to see if its worth while asking the boss to hire you to do some training >> - they set aside time for the meeting, but haven't set aside separate time for learning about that subject >> - they want to debate the value of changing some element in the process, or using a completely different process >> >> >> The point is, if someone proposes an interesting topic, any individual who needs it for work, now, can go to the web and find related info before the meeitng. >> The interesting topic is still interesting as a presentation at the meeting. >> >> >> Cheers! >> >> Rob Echlin >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux mailing list >> Linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca >> http://oclug.on.ca/mailman/listinfo/linux >> >> >_______________________________________________ >Linux mailing list >Linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca >http://oclug.on.ca/mailman/listinfo/linux > > >