On Tue, 2011-07-12 at 07:17 -0400, Bill Strosberg wrote: > Brett Delmage wrote: > > > > Please keep your personal attacks OFF THE LIST. > > Thank you. > Mr. Delmage: > > I've known Francis for more than ten years - and this certainly was not > a personal attack. The Linux Doctor has consciously and publicly chosen > to bring his strong and unshakable faith to the forefront as part of his > personality and on-line persona. > Part of that comes from total and infallible conviction that the cause of the Free/Open Source Software is the true path to technological advancement. This infallibility necessarily means that all those who disagree with or contradict my positions are, by definition, in error. Yes, I do have a strong personality which some find off-putting. It is their loss. > For more than a decade I've admired the certainty and acceptance Francis > has in his faith - and as one who has a different perspective on things > I know I fall into a group that Francis would label a heathen. That > doesn't mean I am insulted when Francis has made it clear in the past > his is the only true faith - it just means I treat our differences with > tolerance and amusement (as does he). > I thank you. Certainly, I have never been insulted by yours or anyone else's remarks. I have viewed those who disagree with me with the kind of amusement that a parent may look at his child when he does something cute but stupid. I do not, however, have tolerance for error but, rather, I put up with it despite the pain it causes me to see the toll that error has had on civilization. That is not tolerance, but longanimity. > I'm not sure where this need to be list police has come from lately. > First Richard gets lectured on etiquette this week, and now I'm getting > lessons. When Randall, Richard, Andrew, Vic, Burns, Mike and Dave (and > myself) formed OCLUG the intention was a place on-line where personal > and friendly interaction between professionals could occur. > These self-appointed 'police,' as you call them, have always been around, and not only on this list. They have created a so-called 'netiquette' based on false values and principles with the stated principle of encouraging civil discourse but, in fact, has the effect of shutting it down. That is precisely what has happened to all mailing lists as people have become fed up with a false 'political' correctness and find other, less restrictive, outlets to express themselves. I cannot count the number of times I have been accused of 'political' incorrectness for being, in fact, correct. My typical response to such foolishness is to remark that if they thought I was being 'politically' incorrect they must have the wrong politics. Indeed, there is a constant need for longanimity. > I guess we were wrong. I'll henceforth reserve my knowledge, experience > and thoughts for those that pay. > Another victim of incorrect politics. >>>--fja->