Hi; I am trying to sort out why the following doesn't work. I think it should. TUX DocumentRoot = /var/www/ = DR CASE DocumentRoot = /var/www/html =DR ;the html directory was added by apache install TUX web repository = DR/index.php /includes/header-oclug.html /program_olympics/pics_olympics_07/images.php images.php header "include .././includes/header-oclug.html" Produces an error "No such file or directory in /var/www/program_olympics/pics_olympics_07/images.php on line 3" CASE web repository = DR/index.php /includes/header-oclug.html /program_olympics/pics_olympics_07/images.php images.php header "include .././includes/header-oclug.html" No error Main question; relatively, aren't they the same? I have double checked the path structure on both CASE and TUX and I have experimented with different numbers of /../ just to be sure. Nothing works. -- Regards Bill