just an inane question... I have SEVERAL backups. I'm more than grandfathered here... and would like to compare for diffs (rewrites, more than date-touch) I once saw a visual one for some GUI. If it'll eat thru 100 megs of 6k files (in at least four versions, 500m) i'm keen. anyone remember it? does it run decently? jeez, i oughta make an xml/wiki data base of this while i'm at it. invent a few file attr(s) kinda thing. maybe another sunday... oh, to make bootable bkup, does (from /) mkisofs / bkup.iso (or thereabouts. bet there's at least two syntac errors there) need anything from the MBR? /boot is included. pat -- http://packrat.comicgenesis.com stalking millionaires - the dating game