Is this what I think it is (idiocy) ? Another "happy" cybersurf customer showed me something like this a few weeks ago. Brett # traceroute 66.11.174.139 traceroute to 66.11.174.139, 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 192.168.200.1 33.849 ms 34.191 ms 35.383 ms 2 i216-58-0-1.cybersurf.com (216.58.0.1) 36.286 ms 37.278 ms 37.951 ms 3 h64-187-19-249.gtconnect.net (64.187.19.249) 52.326 ms 51.210 ms 50.951 ms 4 216.18.63.13 54.564 ms 53.333 ms 53.072 ms 5 POS4-0.PEERA-CHCGIL.IP.GROUPTELECOM.NET (66.59.191.86) 51.806 ms 51.550 ms 52.512 ms 6 GT-COGENT.PEERA-CHCGIL.IP.GROUPTELECOM.NET (66.59.191.94) 52.420 ms 52.925 ms 99.564 ms 7 p12-0.core02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.241) 45.137 ms 47.261 ms 47.523 ms 8 p5-0.core01.yyz01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.214) 46.946 ms 45.755 ms 45.482 ms 9 vl102.na01.b011027-1.yyz01.atlas.cogentco.com (38.112.37.50) 45.670 ms 47.391 ms 46.601 ms 10 6042147Canada_Inc.demarc.cogentco.com (38.112.21.198) 46.078 ms 45.813 ms 46.696 ms 11 gw-igs.torontointernetxchange.net (198.32.245.14) 44.835 ms 44.246 ms 44.470 ms 12 h64-187-19-249.gtconnect.net (64.187.19.249) 60.472 ms 60.653 ms 59.998 ms 13 216.18.63.13 58.429 ms 62.563 ms 61.808 ms 14 POS4-0.PEERA-CHCGIL.IP.GROUPTELECOM.NET (66.59.191.86) 61.521 ms 59.801 ms 59.209 ms 15 GT-COGENT.PEERA-CHCGIL.IP.GROUPTELECOM.NET (66.59.191.94) 66.185 ms 65.097 ms 63.305 ms 16 p12-0.core02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.241) 62.312 ms 60.574 ms 60.782 ms 17 p5-0.core01.yyz01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.214) 60.491 ms 59.734 ms 59.439 ms 18 vl102.na01.b011027-1.yyz01.atlas.cogentco.com (38.112.37.50) 59.436 ms 57.692 ms 59.634 ms 19 6042147Canada_Inc.demarc.cogentco.com (38.112.21.198) 60.046 ms 59.361 ms 60.184 ms 20 gw-igs.torontointernetxchange.net (198.32.245.14) 58.377 ms 58.496 ms 60.185 ms 21 h64-187-19-249.gtconnect.net (64.187.19.249) 76.704 ms 75.924 ms 75.896 ms 22 216.18.63.13 74.344 ms 74.778 ms 73.829 ms 23 POS4-0.PEERA-CHCGIL.IP.GROUPTELECOM.NET (66.59.191.86) 73.074 ms 75.488 ms 74.243 ms 24 GT-COGENT.PEERA-CHCGIL.IP.GROUPTELECOM.NET (66.59.191.94) 74.864 ms 74.938 ms 74.896 ms 25 p12-0.core02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.241) 76.136 ms 77.187 ms 77.490 ms 26 p5-0.core01.yyz01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.214) 75.415 ms 74.726 ms 74.578 ms 27 vl102.na01.b011027-1.yyz01.atlas.cogentco.com (38.112.37.50) 73.786 ms 82.854 ms 83.644 ms 28 6042147Canada_Inc.demarc.cogentco.com (38.112.21.198) 82.946 ms 81.307 ms 81.245 ms 29 gw-igs.torontointernetxchange.net (198.32.245.14) 80.716 ms 80.903 ms 81.176 ms 30 h64-187-19-249.gtconnect.net (64.187.19.249) 95.496 ms 94.515 ms 93.591 ms