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Re: [OCLUG-Tech] CACert - free digital certificates

  • Subject: Re: [OCLUG-Tech] CACert - free digital certificates
  • From: "Dan Langille" <dan [ at ] langille [ dot ] org>
  • Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 10:25:24 -0400
On 3 Jun 2005 at 10:20, Bill Strosberg wrote:

> Dan Langille wrote:
> > On 3 Jun 2005 at 9:27, Adrian Irving-Beer wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 03:30:19PM -0400, Bill Strosberg wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>CA-issued certs & automatic browser inclusion of root certs always
> >>>have been a thorn in my side.  Why should anyone trust someone else
> >>>because they paid a third party to say they are who they are? (even
> >>>if they lied).
> >>
> >>The original (primary) idea was that the cert companies verify who
> >>you are, sort of like PGP.
> >>
> >>The (secondary) idea was to prevent man-in-the-middle attacks by
> >>ensuring that the 'in the middle' guy has to a) at least expend more
> >>effort trying to get a similar certificate, and b) hopefully not
> >>succeed.
> >>
> >>Obviously, I have no idea if either of these are still being
> >>practiced by the companies in question.
> > 
> > 
> > So... about CACert....
> > 
> > What do you think about them?
> 
> Companies like this ask you to install a chain-of-authority cert along
> with the cert they issue you - this establishes their path back to a
> trusted root cert when someone queries the webserver for the cert
> info.
>  If you properly install the chain cert, users that connect your your
> webserver can SSL/TLS without those annoying "Warning!" messages
> slowing their surfing.
> 
> CACert is no better or worse than anyone else in the business.  My
> position is that the whole on-line trust model is broken.
> Profit!-motivated organizations have no place in a trustworthy system.
> Principles are always soluable in cash.

CACert is not a company.  It's not involved in cash.  There's no 
profit.  I don't see how your comments relate to my question.

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