No, it ain't benign. I was just young enough to score this email address as a beta tester. F me? Lol :) RGB et all, what trust in the chain is being violated? You shouldn't have any problems with a mailing list and as arrogant as this sounds, I can probably wrestle the giants into submission -- but I don't have anonymized logs to work with. I currently have the attention of my MPP etc. RGB, et all, good sirs, what the heck is going on with email? It must be a cert chain that gets invalidated from one of the megacorps who don't do any due diligence, unless I'm way off base. On Thu, Feb 12, 2026 at 7:38 PM Richard Guy Briggs via sigs-l3go < sigs-l3go [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org> wrote: > On 2026-02-13 08:02, Martin Hicks via sigs-l3go wrote: > > On February 13, 2026 6:59:31 AM GMT+08:00, Benjamin LaHaise via > sigs-l3go <sigs-l3go [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org> wrote: > > >On Thu, Feb 12, 2026 at 05:54:34PM -0500, Matthew Charette via > sigs-l3go wrote: > > >... > > >> <broader list issues chat> > > >> It seems l3go gets continually flagged by Gmail as spam. I go in > about once > > >> every 2 months to clear the flag, "not spam tyvm :)", but I keep > needing to > > >> dig for the emails. I stopped running my own mail server awhile ago > because > > >> it would appear the infrastructure for email is so heavily dependent > on > > >> third parties and certs now that I just went, "bah, whatever". I'd > guess > > >> Alex could brain dump on this and give all of us a proper > education...... > > >> (literally asking, poke poke.... :)) > > >... > > > > > >gmail is actively hostile towards mailing lists. Don't expect any > mailing > > >lists to work with it. I had to unsubscribe all the @gmail.com > > >subscribers from linux-mm as the number of false positives and otherwise > > >random bounces made it completely unreliable. It's sad that email > servers > > >with a good reputation on the same IP for more than 17 years is not > enough > > >to get past spam filteres these days. > > > > I see the same thing. I hosted the vorlage ski patrol list since I was a > patroller in 2002 and they moved to a MS teams list this winter after > seeing a spike in messages marked as spam. > > The 800 pound gorilla isn't so benign. > > I've been having similar problems running mailing lists for re-cycles.ca > and those have been moved over to gaggle. > > > mh > > slainte mhath, RGB > > -- > Richard Guy Briggs -- ~\ -- ~\ < > hpv.tricolour.ca> > <www.TriColour.ca> -- \___ o \@ @ Ride yer > bike! > Ottawa, ON, CANADA -- Lo_>__M__\\/\%__\\/\% > Vote! -- <greenparty.ca > >_____GTVS6#790__(*)__(*)________(*)(*)_________________ > -- > Manage your subscription: > https://lists.linux-ottawa.org/sigs-l3go/listinfo.html > >