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<p>Actually, not owned by Brookfield - but related.<br>
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As Google AI: 'how are brookfield and stripe related'</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2026-09-22 17:41, David Patte via
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<p>I have been using Stripe for my small online retail business
(flatwarefinder.com) for over 9 years. No Issues. In fact, I
believe it is owned by Brookfield. Payments arrive in my bank
account each Friday morning.<br>
<br>
If you need a payment processor, and don't mind it being owned
by Brookfield, then I'd say its great. They have very useful
charting of sales, and great features built into their reporting
system.</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2026-09-22 17:28, Eric Marceau via
linux wrote:<br>
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<p><b>[1] Who are we dealing with?</b></p>
<p>Trying to find out about <b>Bluenose Mail</b>, Geotool
reports</p>
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<p><img src="cid:part1.S4FpBY2E.WCHd3Fzl@relativedata.com"
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<p>Query to Google came back with the following added details:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><strong class="rQesXe MPyX" data-sfc-cp=""
data-sfc-root="ep"
data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 700; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);"
style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 700; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);"><span
data-subtree="aimfl,mfl"
data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 700; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);"
style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 700; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);">OVH
Hosting, Inc.</span></strong> is the <mark class="MAeH"
data-wiz-attrbind="class=qgeSnb_p/cFwyDc"
data-sfc-root="ep"
data-ved="2ahUKEwjYs7_ei4OXAxUo3PACHTZ3PL8QuJAPegoIAggACAAIDxAB"
data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(238, 240, 255);"
style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(238, 240, 255);">North
American corporate subsidiary and regional Internet
Service / Hosting Provider entity for <span class=""
data-sfc-cp="" data-sfc-root="ep" data-sfc-inited="2"
data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(238, 240, 255);"
style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(238, 240, 255);"><a
class="H23r4e" target="_blank" rel="noopener"
data-ved="2ahUKEwjYs7_ei4OXAxUo3PACHTZ3PL8Qy_kOegoIAggACAAIDxAC"
data-hveid="CAIIAAgACA8QAg"
href="https://www.google.co.uk/goto?url=CAESUAHrOzAV9HVuEyKnbki4RtleVoijnIG6z4l442kVSjsvn95fShnoVvqkuisWGF_X7U7JJUq9afMEoZo4vsjrG1t-QP3l_G56mbXCCtcgFl5Y";
aria-label="OVHcloud. Link preview. Site: OVHcloud. Title: OVHcloud. URL: https://us.ovhcloud.com/.";
data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: underline 1px rgb(153, 195, 255); border-bottom: 0px rgb(153, 195, 255);"
style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: underline 1px rgb(153, 195, 255); border-bottom: 0px rgb(153, 195, 255);"
moz-do-not-send="true">OVHcloud</a></span></mark>, a
major global cloud computing and hosting company.</p>
<p>Founded in France in 1999 by Octave Klaba, <span class=""
data-sfc-cp="" data-sfc-root="ep" data-sfc-inited="2"
data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);"
style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);"><a
class="H23r4e" target="_blank" rel="noopener"
data-ved="2ahUKEwjYs7_ei4OXAxUo3PACHTZ3PL8Qy_kOegoIAggACAAIFRAD"
data-hveid="CAIIAAgACBUQAw"
href="https://www.google.co.uk/goto?url=CAESfwHrOzAVS7biQyW3o65iE3pyXtAVljByCQP_7ChiDG8P_Jl16fqZ6tdMvYswhwY_mXKHG6GHfXZJ4k5U_qGktQhtAJf2UQyryv-m31Arcj5cj5ErYbNxrVFMmOrPS6znEMHdaoeG3BMcI12t8HeIiQT-4jvF1xhKFZ1CKIBLWb0";
data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: underline 1px rgb(153, 195, 255); border-bottom: 0px rgb(153, 195, 255);"
style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: underline 1px rgb(153, 195, 255); border-bottom: 0px rgb(153, 195, 255);"
moz-do-not-send="true">OVHcloud</a></span> is a massive
international cloud provider.</p>
<p>OVH Hosting, Inc. manages regional network infrastructure,
IP address blocks (registered via ARIN), and data
centers—including major operations in <span class=""
data-sfc-cp="" data-sfc-root="ep" data-sfc-inited="2"
data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);"
style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);"><a
class="H23r4e" target="_blank" rel="noopener"
data-ved="2ahUKEwjYs7_ei4OXAxUo3PACHTZ3PL8Qy_kOegoIAggACAAIFRAK"
data-hveid="CAIIAAgACBUQCg"
href="https://www.google.co.uk/goto?url=CAESYAHrOzAV-hzYn-idGdcEmYM1kzvmgKlRXMCoHS-1hQGH67NjmnCUR6B5sF8lQIsC6N-vWSAyfi3KWrD5adIOelElfeWTfqnxLsitD4AXqe-5xlAEAkJ2l1eGIupGpCwMYA";
aria-label="Montreal, Quebec, Canada. Link preview. Site: OVHcloud. Title: About us | OVHcloud Canada. URL: https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-ca/about-us/.";
data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: underline 1px rgb(153, 195, 255); border-bottom: 0px rgb(153, 195, 255);"
style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: underline 1px rgb(153, 195, 255); border-bottom: 0px rgb(153, 195, 255);"
moz-do-not-send="true">Montreal, Quebec, Canada</a>.</span></p>
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<p>But a query on whether bluenosemail.ca is an operating arm of
OVH Hosting, the response was <b>NO</b>.</p>
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</p>
<p>Review of the page source shows the following line associated
with the Stripe deposit payment:</p>
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<p><span id="line612"><span>const STRIPE_DEPOSIT_LINK = <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="https://buy.stripe.com/cNi14oedr2Uhehn0f4eZ200";
moz-do-not-send="true">"https://buy.stripe.com/cNi14oedr2Uhehn0f4eZ200";</a><br>
// live Bluenose Mail $5 CAD deposit link</span></span></p>
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<p>I would like to know:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Does anyone have reservations about <b>Stripe</b> as a
payment handler?</p>
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<p><br>
</p>
<p>I find it <b>very off-putting</b> that we have <b>no way of
identifying the principals involved</b> with this
initiative. We have <b>no</b> idea whether this is a
potential large-scale fraud or not! Does anyone have contacts
with the <b>RCMP</b> to make a quick determination as to
legitimacy of this operation?</p>
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</p>
<p><b>[2] The offer and opportunity</b></p>
<p>Given that they are pushing their service with the line</p>
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<p><i>Bluenose Mail is a Canadian-hosted email service built
to make leaving Gmail, Outlook, or iCloud painless ...</i></p>
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</p>
<p>I am honestly shocked at the possibility that it MIGHT never
get off the ground, as per the TOS statement</p>
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<p><i>If we do not move forward with launching the service, <br>
every deposit will be automatically refunded in full.</i></p>
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</p>
<p>Also, <b>I sent a feedback message</b> to them, the text of
which is the following</p>
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<p><i>You want to make this fly, it should be FREE like Gmail,
with a data-storage cap for free accounts, or increased
data capacity for a paid Premium service.<br>
</i> <i><br>
Then sell it to Gov Can that they should fund the basic
service accounts, in order to promote the mass migration
in the shortest possible timeframe.<br>
</i> <i><br>
That will remove any doubt that the service would get off
the ground and become part of the basic underpinning for
severed and independant Canadian Digital Infrastructure.<br>
</i> <i><br>
My wife would love to move away from Live.ca which is also
a free service.<br>
</i> <i><br>
Time to offer a service that can actually be SEEN as a
replacement for those free services.<br>
</i> <i><br>
You might even want to see if you can get a "per capita
funding" for the free accounts, not just from the Canadian
government, but maybe from European governments as well!
That would expand both the scope and the benefits of scale
that such a service could attract!<br>
</i> <i><br>
Food for thought!</i></p>
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<p>May I encourage others to promote the same
concept/idea/paradigm ?</p>
<p>If you agree, the paradigm I suggested could be something
that we could each approach </p>
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<p>Evan Solomon<br>
Minister of Artificial Intelligence and Digital Innovation<br>
<i><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:evan [ dot ] solomon [ at ] parl [ dot ] gc [ dot ] ca"
moz-do-not-send="true">evan [ dot ] solomon [ at ] parl [ dot ] gc [ dot ] ca</a></i></p>
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<p>either singly, <b>or as a Community with joint signatures</b>,
to encourage its adoption, if everyone thinks that it is a
goal worthy of being pursued.</p>
<p>If not that provider as the focus, <b>another single
provider</b> could be chosen as the "vehicle" by a Community
consensus.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Eric Marceau, 70</p>
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<p><i><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2026-09-22 08:23, Eric
Brackenbury via linux wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Hi folks
<div dir="auto">Do any of you know anything about this
proposed email service?</div>
<div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.bluenosemail.ca/";
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.bluenosemail.ca/</a></div>
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<div dir="auto">Regards</div>
<div dir="auto">Eric Brackenbury</div>
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