<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">I hate using Stripe. Not only is it US, I believe (though I could be wrong) it's associated with Peter Thiel.</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">But the only Canadian alternative I've found tells me I'm "not a good match" for their services, and won't tell me why. I'm a professional genealogist and currently 98% of my clients are in the US, so it's either Stripe or PayPal (or Wise, which people seem reluctant to use.)</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div>
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On Tuesday, September 22nd, 2026 at 21:29, Eric Marceau via linux <linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org> wrote:<br>
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<p><b>[1] Who are we dealing with?</b></p>
<p>Trying to find out about <b>Bluenose Mail</b>, Geotool reports</p>
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<p><img class="proton-embedded" src="cid:part1.0kZC75KT.I0q00XsJ@rogers.com"></p>
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<p>Query to Google came back with the following added details:</p>
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<p><strong class="rQesXe MPyX" data-sfc-cp="" data-sfc-root="ep" data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 700; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);" style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 700; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);"><span data-subtree="aimfl,mfl" data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 700; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);" style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 700; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);">OVH
Hosting, Inc.</span></strong> is the <mark class="MAeH" data-wiz-attrbind="class=qgeSnb_p/cFwyDc" data-sfc-root="ep" data-ved="2ahUKEwjYs7_ei4OXAxUo3PACHTZ3PL8QuJAPegoIAggACAAIDxAB" data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(238, 240, 255);" style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(238, 240, 255);">North
American corporate subsidiary and regional Internet Service /
Hosting Provider entity for <span class="" data-sfc-cp="" data-sfc-root="ep" data-sfc-inited="2" data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(238, 240, 255);" style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(238, 240, 255);"><a class="H23r4e" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" data-ved="2ahUKEwjYs7_ei4OXAxUo3PACHTZ3PL8Qy_kOegoIAggACAAIDxAC" data-hveid="CAIIAAgACA8QAg" href="https://www.google.co.uk/goto?url=CAESUAHrOzAV9HVuEyKnbki4RtleVoijnIG6z4l442kVSjsvn95fShnoVvqkuisWGF_X7U7JJUq9afMEoZo4vsjrG1t-QP3l_G56mbXCCtcgFl5Y"; aria-label="OVHcloud. Link preview. Site: OVHcloud. Title: OVHcloud. URL: https://us.ovhcloud.com/."; data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: underline 1px rgb(153, 195, 255); border-bottom: 0px rgb(153, 195, 255);" style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: underline 1px rgb(153, 195, 255); border-bottom: 0px rgb(153, 195, 255);">OVHcloud</a></span></mark>,
a major global cloud computing and hosting company.</p>
<p>Founded in France in 1999 by Octave Klaba, <span class="" data-sfc-cp="" data-sfc-root="ep" data-sfc-inited="2" data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);" style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);"><a class="H23r4e" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" data-ved="2ahUKEwjYs7_ei4OXAxUo3PACHTZ3PL8Qy_kOegoIAggACAAIFRAD" data-hveid="CAIIAAgACBUQAw" href="https://www.google.co.uk/goto?url=CAESfwHrOzAVS7biQyW3o65iE3pyXtAVljByCQP_7ChiDG8P_Jl16fqZ6tdMvYswhwY_mXKHG6GHfXZJ4k5U_qGktQhtAJf2UQyryv-m31Arcj5cj5ErYbNxrVFMmOrPS6znEMHdaoeG3BMcI12t8HeIiQT-4jvF1xhKFZ1CKIBLWb0"; data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: underline 1px rgb(153, 195, 255); border-bottom: 0px rgb(153, 195, 255);" style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: underline 1px rgb(153, 195, 255); border-bottom: 0px rgb(153, 195, 255);">OVHcloud</a></span>
is a massive international cloud provider.</p>
<p>OVH Hosting, Inc. manages regional network infrastructure, IP
address blocks (registered via ARIN), and data centers—including
major operations in <span class="" data-sfc-cp="" data-sfc-root="ep" data-sfc-inited="2" data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);" style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);"><a class="H23r4e" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" data-ved="2ahUKEwjYs7_ei4OXAxUo3PACHTZ3PL8Qy_kOegoIAggACAAIFRAK" data-hveid="CAIIAAgACBUQCg" href="https://www.google.co.uk/goto?url=CAESYAHrOzAV-hzYn-idGdcEmYM1kzvmgKlRXMCoHS-1hQGH67NjmnCUR6B5sF8lQIsC6N-vWSAyfi3KWrD5adIOelElfeWTfqnxLsitD4AXqe-5xlAEAkJ2l1eGIupGpCwMYA"; aria-label="Montreal, Quebec, Canada. Link preview. Site: OVHcloud. Title: About us | OVHcloud Canada. URL: https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-ca/about-us/."; data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: underline 1px rgb(153, 195, 255); border-bottom: 0px rgb(153, 195, 255);" style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: underline 1px rgb(153, 195, 255); border-bottom: 0px rgb(153, 195, 255);">Montreal,
Quebec, Canada</a>.</span></p>
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<p>But a query on whether bluenosemail.ca is an operating arm of OVH
Hosting, the response was <b>NO</b>.</p>
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<p>Review of the page source shows the following line associated
with the Stripe deposit payment:</p>
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<p><span id="line612"><span>const STRIPE_DEPOSIT_LINK =
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://buy.stripe.com/cNi14oedr2Uhehn0f4eZ200"; style="word-break: break-word;" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">"https://buy.stripe.com/cNi14oedr2Uhehn0f4eZ200";</a><br>
// live Bluenose Mail $5 CAD deposit link</span></span></p>
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<p>I would like to know:</p>
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<p>Does anyone have reservations about <b>Stripe</b> as a payment
handler?</p>
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<p>I find it <b>very off-putting</b> that we have <b>no way of
identifying the principals involved</b> with this initiative.
We have <b>no</b> idea whether this is a potential large-scale
fraud or not! Does anyone have contacts with the <b>RCMP</b> to
make a quick determination as to legitimacy of this operation?</p>
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<p><b>[2] The offer and opportunity</b></p>
<p>Given that they are pushing their service with the line</p>
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<p><i>Bluenose Mail is a Canadian-hosted email service built to
make leaving Gmail, Outlook, or iCloud painless ...</i></p>
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<p>I am honestly shocked at the possibility that it MIGHT never get
off the ground, as per the TOS statement</p>
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<p><i>If we do not move forward with launching the service, <br>
every deposit will be automatically refunded in full.</i></p>
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</p>
<p>Also, <b>I sent a feedback message</b> to them, the text of
which is the following</p>
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<p><i>You want to make this fly, it should be FREE like Gmail,
with a data-storage cap for free accounts, or increased data
capacity for a paid Premium service.<br>
</i> <i><br>
Then sell it to Gov Can that they should fund the basic
service accounts, in order to promote the mass migration in
the shortest possible timeframe.<br>
</i> <i><br>
That will remove any doubt that the service would get off the
ground and become part of the basic underpinning for severed
and independant Canadian Digital Infrastructure.<br>
</i> <i><br>
My wife would love to move away from Live.ca which is also a
free service.<br>
</i> <i><br>
Time to offer a service that can actually be SEEN as a
replacement for those free services.<br>
</i> <i><br>
You might even want to see if you can get a "per capita
funding" for the free accounts, not just from the Canadian
government, but maybe from European governments as well! That
would expand both the scope and the benefits of scale that
such a service could attract!<br>
</i> <i><br>
Food for thought!</i></p>
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<p>May I encourage others to promote the same concept/idea/paradigm
?</p>
<p>If you agree, the paradigm I suggested could be something that we
could each approach </p>
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<p>Evan Solomon<br>
Minister of Artificial Intelligence and Digital Innovation<br>
<i><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:evan [ dot ] solomon [ at ] parl [ dot ] gc [ dot ] ca" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">evan [ dot ] solomon [ at ] parl [ dot ] gc [ dot ] ca</a></i></p>
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<p>either singly, <b>or as a Community with joint signatures</b>,
to encourage its adoption, if everyone thinks that it is a goal
worthy of being pursued.</p>
<p>If not that provider as the focus, <b>another single provider</b>
could be chosen as the "vehicle" by a Community consensus.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Eric Marceau, 70</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2026-09-22 08:23, Eric Brackenbury
via linux wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Hi folks
<div dir="auto">Do any of you know anything about this proposed
email service?</div>
<div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.bluenosemail.ca/"; class="moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">https://www.bluenosemail.ca/</a></div>
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<div dir="auto">Regards</div>
<div dir="auto">Eric Brackenbury</div>
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