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    <p><b>[1] Who are we dealing with?</b></p>
    <p>Trying to find out about <b>Bluenose Mail</b>, Geotool reports</p>
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      <p><img src="cid:part1.0kZC75KT.I0q00XsJ@rogers.com"
          moz-do-not-send="false"></p>
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    <p>Query to Google came back with the following added details:</p>
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      <p><strong class="rQesXe MPyX" data-sfc-cp="" data-sfc-root="ep"
data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 700; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);"
style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 700; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);"><span
            data-subtree="aimfl,mfl"
data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 700; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);"
style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 700; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);">OVH
            Hosting, Inc.</span></strong> is the <mark class="MAeH"
          data-wiz-attrbind="class=qgeSnb_p/cFwyDc" data-sfc-root="ep"
data-ved="2ahUKEwjYs7_ei4OXAxUo3PACHTZ3PL8QuJAPegoIAggACAAIDxAB"
data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(238, 240, 255);"
style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(238, 240, 255);">North
          American corporate subsidiary and regional Internet Service /
          Hosting Provider entity for <span class="" data-sfc-cp=""
            data-sfc-root="ep" data-sfc-inited="2"
data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(238, 240, 255);"
style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(238, 240, 255);"><a
              class="H23r4e" target="_blank" rel="noopener"
data-ved="2ahUKEwjYs7_ei4OXAxUo3PACHTZ3PL8Qy_kOegoIAggACAAIDxAC"
              data-hveid="CAIIAAgACA8QAg"
href="https://www.google.co.uk/goto?url=CAESUAHrOzAV9HVuEyKnbki4RtleVoijnIG6z4l442kVSjsvn95fShnoVvqkuisWGF_X7U7JJUq9afMEoZo4vsjrG1t-QP3l_G56mbXCCtcgFl5Y";
aria-label="OVHcloud. Link preview. Site: OVHcloud. Title: OVHcloud. URL: https://us.ovhcloud.com/.";
data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: underline 1px rgb(153, 195, 255); border-bottom: 0px rgb(153, 195, 255);"
style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: underline 1px rgb(153, 195, 255); border-bottom: 0px rgb(153, 195, 255);">OVHcloud</a></span></mark>,
        a major global cloud computing and hosting company.</p>
      <p>Founded in France in 1999 by Octave Klaba, <span class=""
          data-sfc-cp="" data-sfc-root="ep" data-sfc-inited="2"
data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);"
style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);"><a
            class="H23r4e" target="_blank" rel="noopener"
data-ved="2ahUKEwjYs7_ei4OXAxUo3PACHTZ3PL8Qy_kOegoIAggACAAIFRAD"
            data-hveid="CAIIAAgACBUQAw"
href="https://www.google.co.uk/goto?url=CAESfwHrOzAVS7biQyW3o65iE3pyXtAVljByCQP_7ChiDG8P_Jl16fqZ6tdMvYswhwY_mXKHG6GHfXZJ4k5U_qGktQhtAJf2UQyryv-m31Arcj5cj5ErYbNxrVFMmOrPS6znEMHdaoeG3BMcI12t8HeIiQT-4jvF1xhKFZ1CKIBLWb0";
data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: underline 1px rgb(153, 195, 255); border-bottom: 0px rgb(153, 195, 255);"
style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: underline 1px rgb(153, 195, 255); border-bottom: 0px rgb(153, 195, 255);">OVHcloud</a></span>
        is a massive international cloud provider.</p>
      <p>OVH Hosting, Inc. manages regional network infrastructure, IP
        address blocks (registered via ARIN), and data centers—including
        major operations in <span class="" data-sfc-cp=""
          data-sfc-root="ep" data-sfc-inited="2"
data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);"
style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(230, 232, 240);"><a
            class="H23r4e" target="_blank" rel="noopener"
data-ved="2ahUKEwjYs7_ei4OXAxUo3PACHTZ3PL8Qy_kOegoIAggACAAIFRAK"
            data-hveid="CAIIAAgACBUQCg"
href="https://www.google.co.uk/goto?url=CAESYAHrOzAV-hzYn-idGdcEmYM1kzvmgKlRXMCoHS-1hQGH67NjmnCUR6B5sF8lQIsC6N-vWSAyfi3KWrD5adIOelElfeWTfqnxLsitD4AXqe-5xlAEAkJ2l1eGIupGpCwMYA";
aria-label="Montreal, Quebec, Canada. Link preview. Site: OVHcloud. Title: About us | OVHcloud Canada. URL: https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-ca/about-us/.";
data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: underline 1px rgb(153, 195, 255); border-bottom: 0px rgb(153, 195, 255);"
style="font-family: Google Sans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: underline 1px rgb(153, 195, 255); border-bottom: 0px rgb(153, 195, 255);">Montreal,
            Quebec, Canada</a>.</span></p>
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    <p>But a query on whether bluenosemail.ca is an operating arm of OVH
      Hosting, the response was <b>NO</b>.</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>Review of the page source shows the following line associated
      with the Stripe deposit payment:</p>
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      <p><span id="line612"><span>const STRIPE_DEPOSIT_LINK =
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://buy.stripe.com/cNi14oedr2Uhehn0f4eZ200";>"https://buy.stripe.com/cNi14oedr2Uhehn0f4eZ200";</a><br>
            // live Bluenose Mail $5 CAD deposit link</span></span></p>
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    <p>I would like to know:</p>
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      <p>Does anyone have reservations about <b>Stripe</b> as a payment
        handler?</p>
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    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>I find it <b>very off-putting</b> that we have <b>no way of
        identifying the principals involved</b> with this initiative. 
      We have <b>no</b> idea whether this is a potential large-scale
      fraud or not!  Does anyone have contacts with the <b>RCMP</b> to
      make a quick determination as to legitimacy of this operation?</p>
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    <p><b>[2] The offer and opportunity</b></p>
    <p>Given that they are pushing their service with the line</p>
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      <p><i>Bluenose Mail is a Canadian-hosted email service built to
          make leaving Gmail, Outlook, or iCloud painless ...</i></p>
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    <p>I am honestly shocked at the possibility that it MIGHT never get
      off the ground, as per the TOS statement</p>
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      <p><i>If we do not move forward with launching the service, <br>
          every deposit will be automatically refunded in full.</i></p>
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    <p>Also, <b>I sent a feedback message</b> to them, the text of
      which is the following</p>
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      <p><i>You want to make this fly, it should be FREE like Gmail,
          with a data-storage cap for free accounts, or increased data
          capacity for a paid Premium service.<br>
        </i> <i><br>
          Then sell it to Gov Can that they should fund the basic
          service accounts, in order to promote the mass migration in
          the shortest possible timeframe.<br>
        </i> <i><br>
          That will remove any doubt that the service would get off the
          ground and become part of the basic underpinning for severed
          and independant Canadian Digital Infrastructure.<br>
        </i> <i><br>
          My wife would love to move away from Live.ca which is also a
          free service.<br>
        </i> <i><br>
          Time to offer a service that can actually be SEEN as a
          replacement for those free services.<br>
        </i> <i><br>
          You might even want to see if you can get a "per capita
          funding" for the free accounts, not just from the Canadian
          government, but maybe from European governments as well!  That
          would expand both the scope and the benefits of scale that
          such a service could attract!<br>
        </i> <i><br>
          Food for thought!</i></p>
    </blockquote>
    <p>May I encourage others to promote the same concept/idea/paradigm
      ?</p>
    <p>If you agree, the paradigm I suggested could be something that we
      could each approach </p>
    <blockquote>
      <p>Evan Solomon<br>
        Minister of Artificial Intelligence and Digital Innovation<br>
        <i><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:evan [ dot ] solomon [ at ] parl [ dot ] gc [ dot ] ca">evan [ dot ] solomon [ at ] parl [ dot ] gc [ dot ] ca</a></i></p>
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    <p>either singly, <b>or as a Community with joint signatures</b>,
      to encourage its adoption, if everyone thinks that it is a goal
      worthy of being pursued.</p>
    <p>If not that provider as the focus, <b>another single provider</b>
      could be chosen as the "vehicle" by a Community consensus.</p>
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    <p>Eric Marceau, 70</p>
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    <p><i><br>
      </i></p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2026-09-22 08:23, Eric Brackenbury
      via linux wrote:<br>
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      cite="mid:20260922171322 [ dot ] 6628D201A2 [ at ] mail [ dot ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org">
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      <div dir="auto">Hi folks
        <div dir="auto">Do any of you know anything about this proposed
          email service?</div>
        <div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.bluenosemail.ca/";
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.bluenosemail.ca/</a></div>
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        <div dir="auto">Regards</div>
        <div dir="auto">Eric Brackenbury</div>
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