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Re: looking for suggestions for non-cloud, real-time outdoor security camera

  • Subject: Re: looking for suggestions for non-cloud, real-time outdoor security camera
  • From: Dmitriy Korovkin <dnkorovkin [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com>
  • Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 17:10:57 -0400
Hi John,

If you would like to look at something new, look at Zephyr OS. It has a very good documentation and makes all kinds of embedded development way easier. 

If you are looking for a platform to prototype, Raspberry PI Pico (2) seems a good choice as it is cheap and well supported by Zephyr community.

As for if needed, I can redo my home automation presentation as I did several years ago on OpenHAB+MQTT+Zephyr basrd devices. Runs just perfectly. 

Feel free to ask if you have more questions,
-- 
Dmitriy Korovkin

On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 11:30:28 -0400
Nash JC - NCF via linux <linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org> wrote:

> FWIW, I'm working on replacing home alarm system. I've more or less decided to use
> 3 separate pieces:
> - R Pi running motion (more below)
> - ESP32 smoke/vapour
> - ESP32 low temperature
> 
> Any or all of these, given current thread about security cameras, would make a decent
> discussion for next meeting.
> 
> With "motion" I've been doing some playing with settings. It's non-trivial to get
> the right set of settings, and they are highly conditional on available local
> storage, the context of the need for motion detection and images, etc. I've chosen
> to NOT capture video, just images, and not very frequent. Also to NOT upload more
> than a few of these. And the trigger choice is still under experimentation. I'll
> openly admit I've a huge body of learning to catch up on. I'll be happy to share
> ideas and experience, either on list or "off list and prepare digest".
> 
> Rest of msg is (current -- but might change) rationale for choices that might give
> others some useful points to ponder.
> 
> 1) I've never programmed in C, but the ESP32 examples / tutorials I'm using are in C
> (there are some out there in Python, but I bought a quite nice starter kit and am
> working through the nifty circuits and code). My plan is to adapt one of the examples.
> Testing one case is easier than wondering what happens if both smoke and low temp
> get triggered at same time. Hence intent to build two separate modules.
> 
> 2) I've just become aware of MQTT for notifications, so am novice in that.
> However, I've managed to get ESP32 to send me an email message. Note that mobile
> phone folk have killed off email to SMS in last year, just after I tested that
> option and found it very useful. Sigh.
> 
> 3) My main concern is low temp when away for more than a day or so in winter.
> Friends got a call when in bed that their furnace had died based on such an "alarm"
> with their commercial home system. It was -30 out. They figure the alarm saved
> them a 40-50K$ freezeup. But such alarms don't have to be "within 5 mins". Probably
> 1-3 hours is OK.
> 
> 4) Smoke is more "I'd like to know." If there's a fire, unless I'm home I can't do
> much to knock it down. I'm not building a smoke alarm, but a "smoke notifier".
> 
> 5) Intrusion alarm response is almost certain to be too slow to be useful except
> in a case where someone pulls in a truck to empty the house. Professionals will be
> after something special. It would be nice to know I have a Vermeer rather than
> a couple of verMinders (my nom-de-paintbrush is Jan verMinder). Kids breaking in
> for vandalism probably will not hang around for police, who won't get there for
> at least 30 mins and likely longer. So main use is to have images. There are
> plenty of issues to discuss on how many, what quality, and how / where to upload.
> 
> Anyway, I welcome the discussion going on. Everyone has a slightly different
> use case, but airing them is helpful to refine the response.
> 
> Cheers, John Nash
> 
> 
> On 2025-08-16 18:17, Dianne Skoll via linux wrote:
> > On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 17:07:48 -0400
> > Spencer Cheng via linux <linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org> wrote:
> > 
> >> 15 or so years ago, I did the system design for a linux based video
> >> camera which could operate through a firewall as a favour to a
> >> friend.
> > 
> > My home network has a static public IP address ($4/month extra from
> > TekSavvy) so once I fire up my VPN, I can access my camera from
> > anywhere.
> > 
> > I would not expose any sort of security camera feed to the
> > Internet other than over a VPN.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Dianne.
> > 
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