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<p>If you are like me, you may also want to keep the following
aliases for handy reference. <br>
</p>
<p> alias l='ls -CF'<br>
alias la='ls -A'<br>
alias ldir='find . -maxdepth 1 -type d -print | cut
-c3- | sort -V | xargs -I here ls -ld --color=always "here" |
ndate '<br>
alias lf='find . -maxdepth 1 \( ! -type d \) -print | cut -c3-
| sort -V | xargs -I here ls -ld --color=always "here" | ndate '<br>
alias ll='ls -alF'<br>
alias ls='ls --color=auto'<br>
alias lsdir='find . -maxdepth 1 -type d -print | cut
-c3- | sort -V | xargs -I here ls -d -1 "here" '<br>
alias lsf='find . -maxdepth 1 \( ! -type d \) -print | cut
-c3- | sort -V | xargs -I here ls -d -1 "here" '<br>
alias lsh='find . -maxdepth 1 \( -name "*.sh" -o -name
"*.bash" \) -print | cut -c3- | sort -V | xargs -I here ls -ld
--color=always "here" | ndate '</p>
<p> alias ndate='awk '\''{ pos=index( $0, $9 ) ; rem=substr( $0,
pos ) ; printf("%s %3d %10s %10s %10d %3s %2d %5s %s\n", $1, $2,
$3, $4, $5, $6, $7, $8, rem ) ; } '\'' '<br>
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<p>🙂</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2025-06-29 17:07, Eric Marceau via
linux wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:20250629210735 [ dot ] 09A8060E86 [ at ] mail [ dot ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org">
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<p>There are a few preference settings which control what you see
in Caja.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>First, be sure to choose your preferred mode for</p>
<ul>
<li>Sort folders before files (remove check if you want them
intermingled.<br>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Second, choose default list view</p>
<ul>
<li>By Name will give you what you want (numbers before letters)</li>
</ul>
<p>Also, people need to watch where they click on a window (avoid
column headers) in order to change the "focus". Otherwise, you
could inadvertently change to sort by type, or date, or any
other heading other than the one you expect.</p>
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<p>One thing to watch (with Caja) is that the numeric sort appears
to be "slanted", in that Caja appears to parse out all the
leading digits (<i>and keep in mind that leading zeros are
ignored in this equation</i>), and sort those separately from
the remainder of the filename's string which, in my view, is
bizarre in the extreme! As a consequence, you get repeated
sequential groupings of 1-digit, 2-digit, 3-digit, etc.
leading-numerics sorted numerically from 1-9, followed by
another grouping sorted from 1-9, etc.!!! I never encountered
such bizzareness until Caja, and that applies to both Icon and
List views.</p>
<p>Also, the "." in the filename string, not counting the "."
which is considered part of the suffix, as well as the "-", "_",
appear to be placed between "0" and "1" in the digit precedence
list, as per this list</p>
<p><font face="Noto Sans Mono"> 1946010-OCT<br>
1946-10-OCT<br>
1946.10-OCT<br>
1946_10-OCT<br>
1946110-OCT<br>
1946210-OCT</font></p>
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<p>Eric</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2025-06-29 14:41, Nash JC - NCF
via linux wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:20250629184202 [ dot ] 3E50460E85 [ at ] mail [ dot ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org"> <br>
My wife was working on family history photos and complained her
files went missing. <br>
She was happy working in Double Commander (CD), which had the
files showing, but when she <br>
tried Caja or Thunar to get icons so she could see thumbnails,
they "disappeared". <br>
Actually they were at the bottom of the list. <br>
<br>
Notes: 1) Caja won't open my JNJpgCom.py program properly. DC
and Thunar do. <br>
2) DC, we just discovered, has a View/Thumbnails. Good! <br>
<br>
I ran a bunch of file managers. Here's the results, <br>
<br>
File manager presentation of files by name sorting <br>
<br>
yyyymmdd files seem to be at end in many file managers <br>
<br>
mc -- CLI -- correct order <br>
Double Commander -- correct <br>
Caja -- wrong order <br>
Thunar -- wrong order <br>
Nautilus -- wrong order <br>
dolphin -- wrong order <br>
konqueror -- wrong order <br>
krusader -- correct <br>
nemo -- wrong order <br>
pcmanfm -- wrong order, did not close properly <br>
nnn -- CLI -- wrong order <br>
<br>
Looks like some common code to sort files by name is
misbehaving. I'll follow this with the bug report <br>
text which shows the types of filenames giving trouble. <br>
<br>
Cheers, <br>
<br>
John Nash <br>
<br>
Steps to reproduce <br>
<br>
Family photos have several hundred jpeg files of which the
following are present in directory Fons <br>
19460904PeterFrohnwedding01.jpg <br>
19460904PeterFrohnwedding02.jpg <br>
19460904PeterFrohnwedding03.jpg <br>
19460904PeterFrohnwedding04.jpg <br>
19460926AlphonseFrohnmarriesReneev.Seters01.jpg <br>
19460926AlphonseFrohnmarriesReneev.Seters02.jpg <br>
19460926AlphonseFrohnmarriesReneev.Seters03.jpg <br>
19460926AlphonseFrohnmarriesReneev.Seters.jpg <br>
<br>
Open Thunar. NONE of these show up in either icon or list view
except AFTER files starting 2021* <br>
(depends on what other files are present I believe) <br>
<br>
Searching for 194609* shows all of them. <br>
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