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Re: open source chat

On 2022-04-27 18:19, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:
> Hello all,
> I would like to help :)
> Gitter - I agree with Rick, this could be a good open source option for chat/instant messaging. I'm happy to help in any way that I can to get this up-and-running for the group.

Is gitter an open protocol such that running our own server is possible?
I don't necessarily want to run our own, but know that it is auditable.

> IRC - I have had a negative experience with IRC, but specifically with the FreeNode network (https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/19/freenode_staff_resigns/).  I would recommend leveraging Libera or Efnet networks.  I may also have a VM that could be used to setup our own network - however, it is running OpenBSD, not a Linux distro ????  I have had success with multiple clients, but do find the best are HexChat (Windows + Unix-like), XChat (Linux distros), or Nettalk (Windows).  IRC is really ONLY good for text chat.

Yeah, I moved away from FreeNode as much as I could in 2002 due to way
too much drama.  That drama has migrated to Libera.  OCLUG moved to OFTC
in 2002 as well and I moved several other groups there too and have been
very happy with OFTC where the current OCLUG IRC channels still live.

I don't have any notable experience with Efnet.

Agreed IRC is only good for text chat.  That's why I'd like to explore
something more modern like XMPP or matrix.

> NextCloud - In my experience it has been fantastic for document storage, collaboration, chat, project management, and video calls. I do recommend setting up a TURN server at the start (https://help.nextcloud.com/t/howto-setup-nextcloud-talk-with-turn-server/30794).  Please let me know if I can help in any way.
> Jitsi - I think this group has a good handle on the pros/cons.  Please let me know if I can help to leverage Jitsi.
> BigBlueButton - Fantastically underrated for video calls and chat. Can be setup on a private server, but it isn't necessary, the free platform supported by Greenlight works great! I highly recommend at least trying it out, and would be happy to setup a test run for the group if anyone is interested.  BigBlueButton also has an interesting history in Canada ???? (https://bigbluebutton.org/open-source-project/about/).  I may have some special experience to bring (https://freebsdfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/ConferenceReports.pdf).

This does sound interesting if it is worth the effort to switch away
from jitsi.

> Finally, I agree with what others have recommended: attempting an in-person meeting!  I would love to get to know everyone in-person.

I'm physically out of touch with OCLUG since mid-2015, so I'd be eager
to try.  The OCLUG spin-off group L3GO (Low Level Linux Group of Ottawa)
has been meeting monthly in person whenever possible, 2nd Tuesday,
18:30, Red Pepper 246 Queen.

> Sincerely,
> Katie
> ________________________________
> From: Rick Leir <rleir [ at ] leirtech [ dot ] com>
> Sent: 27 April 2022 13:04
> To: linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org <linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org>
> Subject: Re: [linux] open source chat
> Maybe you talked of this already: there is gitter.im which is an open source instant messaging and chat room for users of gitlab. I have not used it.
> As someone else said, chat and messaging are poor tools for annual meetings. We would do better to meet outdoors and take a chance with the weather. I have an umbrella but will probably not need to use it.
> Cheers -- Rick

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