And yes, this is the new (I use that term loosely : -) general discussion list for oclug, the Linux User Group in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. bjb On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 07:41:19PM -0500, John Argus wrote: > Your previous long message did make it to the mailing list. > > jna > > > On Jan 31, 2021, at 14:12, Michael Goguen <michael [ dot ] goguen [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > test > > > > is this a new domain for the old oclug list? Just making sure I > > am not somehow confusing lists or on a list I didn't subscribe > > to... > > > > I posted a longer post about some potentially contentious or > > contraversial opinions relating to privacy security and > > maintaining a healthy balance for users and regulators who manage > > issues and threats online etc, it didn't seem to make the list, I > > might repost if this one gets through, but maybe I'll just make > > sure I"m ont the right list first... > > > > it is possible I am not ... fully? subscribed to this list if > > there was a changeover...? from the oclug domain? > > > > > > thanks in advance. > > > > > > Michael > > > > > >> On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 2:01 PM Michael Goguen <michael [ dot ] goguen [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- > >> From: tOM Trottier <tom [ at ] abacurial [ dot ] com> > >> Date: Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 12:37 AM > >> Subject: Re: [linux] anyone using a privacy-protecting cell phone > >> To: Linux-Ottawa <linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org> > >> Cc: Ian! D. Allen <idallen [ at ] idallen [ dot ] ca> > >> > >> > >> See https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2021/01/cell-phone-location-privacy.html > >> "“Pretty Good Phone Privacy” (PGPP) protects both user identity and user location using the existing cellular networks. It protects users from fake cell phone towers (IMSI-catchers) and surveillance by cell providers. > >> It’s a clever system. The players are the user, a traditional mobile network operator (MNO) like AT&T or Verizon, and a new mobile virtual network operator (MVNO). MVNOs aren’t new. They’re intermediaries like Cricket and Boost." > >> > >> -- tOM Trottier > >> > >> On 22 Jan 2021 at 13:15 re:"[linux] anyone using a privacy-prot..." > >> Ian! D. Allen(Ian! D. Allen <idallen [ at ] idallen [ dot ] ca>) wrote: > >> > >> > Hello Linux hive-mind - > >> > > >> > A non-tech friend is trying to get out from under Apple and set up her > >> > cell phone and computers without Microsoft, Google, or Apple looking > >> > over her shoulder. She is concerned about tracking and privacy. > >> > > >> > I can give her help with her future Linux desktop, but I don't even > >> > own a cell phone so I can't advise on "Linux" cell phones (or any kind > >> > of cell phones). > >> > > >> > Anyone out there in Linux-land with experience they are willing to share > >> > using a cell phone with good privacy that doesn't track you? > >> > > >> > -- > >> > | Ian! D. Allen, BA, MMath - idallen [ at ] idallen [ dot ] ca - Ottawa, Ontario, Canada > >> > | Home: www.idallen.com Contact Improvisation Dance: www.contactimprov.ca > >> > | Former college professor (Free/Libre GNU+Linux) at: teaching.idallen.com > >> > | Defend digital freedom: http://eff.org/ and have fun: http://fools.ca/ > >> > > >> > To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscribe [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org > >> > To get help send a blank message to linux+help [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org > >> > To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> tOM Trottier http://TomTrottier.com BBO:"0 carbon" > >> +1613-860-6633 tOM [ at ] Abacurial [ dot ] com Skype:Abacurial > >> MD5 Fingerprint 27:B8:BA:91:70:E5:44:20:8F:29:EE:46:1E:52:F6:81 > >> SHA1 23:3A:53:18:AB:83:B1:CA:O7:33:AF:10:11:24:27:95:22:98:4E:7E > >> > >> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > >> Version: 3.12 > >> GCS$/B$/IT$/O b++ C++>++++ D d++(--)@ DI+++ > >> e+++ E- G L+ M N O P+ P+>+++ L+>++ PE- PGP > >> PS+++ R* r s:+: t-- tv ULH++++ w+ W+++ X- Y+ > >> !o !K E- V 5- > >> -----END GEEK CODE BLOCK----- ---end quoted text--- To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscribe [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org To get help send a blank message to linux+help [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org