test is this a new domain for the old oclug list? Just making sure I am not somehow confusing lists or on a list I didn't subscribe to... I posted a longer post about some potentially contentious or contraversial opinions relating to privacy security and maintaining a healthy balance for users and regulators who manage issues and threats online etc, it didn't seem to make the list, I might repost if this one gets through, but maybe I'll just make sure I"m ont the right list first... it is possible I am not ... fully? subscribed to this list if there was a changeover...? from the oclug domain? thanks in advance. Michael On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 2:01 PM Michael Goguen <michael [ dot ] goguen [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: tOM Trottier <tom [ at ] abacurial [ dot ] com> > Date: Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 12:37 AM > Subject: Re: [linux] anyone using a privacy-protecting cell phone > To: Linux-Ottawa <linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org> > Cc: Ian! D. Allen <idallen [ at ] idallen [ dot ] ca> > > > See > https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2021/01/cell-phone-location-privacy.html > "“Pretty Good Phone Privacy” (PGPP) protects both user identity and user > location using the existing cellular networks. It protects users from fake > cell phone towers (IMSI-catchers) and surveillance by cell providers. > It’s a clever system. The players are the user, a traditional mobile > network operator (MNO) like AT&T or Verizon, and a new mobile virtual > network operator (MVNO). MVNOs aren’t new. They’re intermediaries like > Cricket and Boost." > > -- tOM Trottier > > On 22 Jan 2021 at 13:15 re:"[linux] anyone using a privacy-prot..." > Ian! D. Allen(Ian! D. Allen <idallen [ at ] idallen [ dot ] ca>) wrote: > > *> Hello Linux hive-mind -* > *> * > *> A non-tech friend is trying to get out from under Apple and set up her* > *> cell phone and computers without Microsoft, Google, or Apple looking* > *> over her shoulder. She is concerned about tracking and privacy.* > *> * > *> I can give her help with her future Linux desktop, but I don't even* > *> own a cell phone so I can't advise on "Linux" cell phones (or any kind* > *> of cell phones).* > *> * > *> Anyone out there in Linux-land with experience they are willing to > share* > *> using a cell phone with good privacy that doesn't track you?* > *> * > *> -- * > *> | Ian! D. Allen, BA, MMath - idallen [ at ] idallen [ dot ] ca <idallen [ at ] idallen [ dot ] ca> > - Ottawa, Ontario, Canada* > *> | Home: www.idallen.com <http://www.idallen.com> Contact > Improvisation Dance: www.contactimprov.ca <http://www.contactimprov.ca>* > *> | Former college professor (Free/Libre GNU+Linux) at: > teaching.idallen.com <http://teaching.idallen.com>* > *> | Defend digital freedom: http://eff.org/ <http://eff.org/> and have > fun: http://fools.ca/ <http://fools.ca/>* > *> * > *> To unsubscribe send a blank message to > linux+unsubscribe [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org <linux%2Bunsubscribe [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org>* > *> To get help send a blank message to linux+help [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org > <linux%2Bhelp [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org>* > *> To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org > <https://lists.linux-ottawa.org>* > *> * > > > > -- > *tOM Trottier http://TomTrottier.com <http://TomTrottier.com> BBO:"0 > carbon" * > *+1613-860-6633* *tOM [ at ] Abacurial [ dot ] com* <tOM [ at ] Abacurial [ dot ] com> > *Skype:Abacurial* > MD5 Fingerprint 27:B8:BA:91:70:E5:44:20:8F:29:EE:46:1E:52:F6:81 > SHA1 23:3A:53:18:AB:83:B1:CA:O7:33:AF:10:11:24:27:95:22:98:4E:7E > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.12 > GCS$/B$/IT$/O b++ C++>++++ D d++(--)@ DI+++ > e+++ E- G L+ M N O P+ P+>+++ L+>++ PE- PGP > PS+++ R* r s:+: t-- tv ULH++++ w+ W+++ X- Y+ > !o !K E- V 5- > -----END GEEK CODE BLOCK----- >