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Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Re windows in a VM

Don't be surprised if the stupid anti virus is scanning the system after (lengthy) shut downs. 

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> On Jul 11, 2015, at 15:02, ProfJCNash <profjcnash [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> wrote:
> 
> My Win 7 VM seems to have "mostly" settled down. It appears that it
> needs some time after virtual bootup to establish that the Win 7
> instance is "activated". If I go to Control Panel -> System it is often
> has status not known, then will change to activated. If I let the Win 7
> VM sit for a while, updates get downloaded and installed. There were a
> whole lot of them over a few days.
> 
> The system still seems sluggish, but it is working and usable, and beats
> having to reboot just to use one or two apps that are awkward in Linux.
> 
> JN
> 
>> On 15-07-07 12:33 PM, Rick Leir wrote:
>> You could google 'windows update troubleshooter' and try microsoft's tool.
>> 
>> Microsoft used to save some identifiers from your system such as MAC and hd serial and other hardware id's to tie the license to a machine. What happens if they do that in a VM?
>> Cheers
>> Rick
>> 
>> 
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>>>  1. Re: VirtualBox network connection (Alex Pilon)
>>>  2. Re: VirtualBox network connection (ProfJCNash)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 15:49:25 -0400
>>> From: Alex Pilon <alp [ at ] alexpilon [ dot ] ca>
>>> To: ProfJCNash <profjcnash [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com>
>>> Cc: Ottawa Linux Users Group <linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca>
>>> Subject: Re: [OCLUG-Tech] VirtualBox network connection
>>> Message-ID: <20150706194925 [ dot ] GH13343 [ at ] alexpilon [ dot ] ca>
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>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 06, 2015 at 03:20:39PM -0400, ProfJCNash wrote:
>>>>>> I have some experience playing with the network settings and have
>>>>>> had to do so once or twice. But so far it has been trial and
>>> error
>>>>>> until things work. Bad practise. I should try to learn what the
>>>>>> settings mean.
>>>>> On 15-07-06 03:28 PM, Alex Pilon wrote:
>>>>> Is it that you just don't understand the settings themselves, or
>>> that
>>>>> you don't understand the virtualization and networking concepts
>>> behind
>>>>> them?
>>>> On Mon, Jul 06, 2015 at 03:36:20PM -0400, ProfJCNash wrote:
>>>> I'm almost entirely a user. I know the generalities, but almost no
>>>> specifics, of the internals.
>>> 
>>> By internals do you mean ?the Linux kernel uses RCU here here and here,
>>> and the functions call graph looks like this, etc.?? Or do you mean
>>> just
>>> how IP routing works, mapping the concepts to the Linux kernel
>>> interface
>>> and userland to configure that?
>>> 
>>>> Any idea if I need to worry about Promiscuous Mode
>>> 
>>> Assume not, and don't enable unless you know and understand how it
>>> would
>>> fix a problem.
>>> 
>>>> and the "Cable connected" option in advanced settings?
>>> 
>>> Fluff if the host's Ethernet NIC is always connected.
>>> 
>>>> I believe the MAC address is generated and should be left alone.
>>> 
>>> Yes, unless you notice a conflict.
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 17:18:09 -0400
>>> From: ProfJCNash <profjcnash [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com>
>>> To: Alex Pilon <alp [ at ] alexpilon [ dot ] ca>, Ottawa Linux Users Group
>>>    <linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca>
>>> Subject: Re: [OCLUG-Tech] VirtualBox network connection
>>> Message-ID: <559AF091 [ dot ] 6040700 [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com>
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>>> 
>>> Link that indicates others have a similar problem is
>>> 
>>> https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4665
>>> 
>>> I have laptop with wifi disabled, ethernet cable plugged in.
>>> 
>>> Vbox settings:
>>> Bridged adapter
>>> eth0
>>> Intel Pro/1000 MT adapter type
>>> Promiscuous mode: deny
>>> 
>>> What Win7 sees (ipconfig): 192.168.1.161
>>> 
>>> Linksys shows machine win7p32 (name of VM) at this address.
>>> 
>>> In win7 machine, Mozilla goes to sites OK as far as I can tell. I have
>>> a
>>> wiki for a local condo corp and I can log in etc. AVG Free seems to
>>> get updates OK (possibly a bit slow).
>>> 
>>> In Control panel -> System, if I open early after startup, activation
>>> is
>>> not reported, then comes up as "windows is activated".
>>> 
>>> But -- Windows update checking for updates just sits forever.
>>> 
>>> So I'm not totally stopped from using the virtual Win 7, and I've
>>> managed as a test to go to OPL and check out an epub, get it into Adobe
>>> Digital Editions and read it.
>>> 
>>> Still, it would be nice to resolve the Updates.
>>> 
>>> Thanks to all who've suggested ideas. They were on right track, but I
>>> think we're possibly into crazy MS territory.
>>> 
>>> JN
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 15-07-06 03:49 PM, Alex Pilon wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 06, 2015 at 03:20:39PM -0400, ProfJCNash wrote:
>>>>>>> I have some experience playing with the network settings and have
>>>>>>> had to do so once or twice. But so far it has been trial and error
>>>>>>> until things work. Bad practise. I should try to learn what the
>>>>>>> settings mean.
>>>>>> On 15-07-06 03:28 PM, Alex Pilon wrote:
>>>>>> Is it that you just don't understand the settings themselves, or
>>> that
>>>>>> you don't understand the virtualization and networking concepts
>>> behind
>>>>>> them?
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 06, 2015 at 03:36:20PM -0400, ProfJCNash wrote:
>>>>> I'm almost entirely a user. I know the generalities, but almost no
>>>>> specifics, of the internals.
>>>> 
>>>> By internals do you mean ?the Linux kernel uses RCU here here and
>>> here,
>>>> and the functions call graph looks like this, etc.?? Or do you mean
>>> just
>>>> how IP routing works, mapping the concepts to the Linux kernel
>>> interface
>>>> and userland to configure that?
>>>> 
>>>>> Any idea if I need to worry about Promiscuous Mode
>>>> 
>>>> Assume not, and don't enable unless you know and understand how it
>>> would
>>>> fix a problem.
>>>> 
>>>>> and the "Cable connected" option in advanced settings?
>>>> 
>>>> Fluff if the host's Ethernet NIC is always connected.
>>>> 
>>>>> I believe the MAC address is generated and should be left alone.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, unless you notice a conflict.
>>> 
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