i'm feeling a bit dense right now, but all i want to do is echo/print/printf/whatever a BEL character to get a beep. i've checked all the standard ways, using '\a' and \007 and so on, but no alleged variation gives me a beep. sound is turned on, so i'm puzzled. this is on fedora 20, is there a shell setting of some kind that i need to tweak? rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ========================================================================