On Tue, 10 May 2011, allan [ dot ] fields [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com wrote: > I think this is a good idea. > > I will suggest that you encourage the advanced kernel programmers to > present on specific subsystems. > > You may find there is a hotbed of embedded programmers here in > Ottawa with knowledge of applying Linux kernel to network and mobile > applications where it really makes sense to get into the nuts and > bolts of the kernel. This might pair well with Linux Symposium > coming up! > > I am not the one you want at this meeting and I will likely not make > it to OLS this year, as I do not have anything to contribute. > There is a lot of value in such events however. Members of "secret > societies" and Travolds may not always appear at such conferences, > but you may find their "look-alike" or at least Waldo. > > I will say that my lurking suggests the Code Factory is a good idea > and I encourage all you social geeks. > > Keep in mind.. Not all people drink beer and not everyone likes > c0ffee. :). I advocate local groups stick to neutral professional > meeting places and hold a charter as OCLUG does. This ensures the > on-topicness. just to make sure folks understand what i'm proposing (and i suspect there will be a few more posts as i nail this down), i'm not looking (at least not yet) at starting an official group with a charter and mission statement or anything of the sort. rather, i'm looking at getting together, on a purely informal basis, with other linux kernel hackers so that *i* will finally get a chance to bug others with questions when i'm having trouble, and to discuss specific topics that i want to clarify. actually, it wouldn't be *totally* informal. my plan would be to solicit suggestions a few days ahead of time on a topic of interest, so that attendees would have time to read up and come at least moderately prepared. and it wouldn't even need to be scheduled on a regular basis -- if someone suddenly wants to know more about a kernel subsystem, with a couple days notice, we could just say we're meeting at the code factory after work on a particular day, and anyone is welcome to show up and the topic of discussion will be "X". the other part of the plan would be that people would show up with laptops with the kernel source so that they could *test* stuff. or with examples they could share. i'm not trying to start a monthly, "at next month's meeting, person X will speak on topic Y." nothing that structured. i just got my membership at the code factory yesterday so i'm now qualified to let others pop in for discussion. and in some cases, i might just announce that i'll be at TCF for, say, an afternoon and anyone is welcome to pop by and chat. if no one pops by, i always have enough to keep me busy. i *could* start things off with an initial meeting where i show people how to grab the kernel source, configure it, build it, and reboot to a new kernel, then write their first loadable module. once people know that, it's way easier to start playing. so perhaps that's a good first presentation, after i get back next week from training. more later. rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ========================================================================