On 11-05-10 11:40 AM, Bill Strosberg wrote: > Shawn H Corey wrote: >> I've upgraded by Ubuntu to 11.04. What a piece of junk. If this is the >> best Canonical can do, it's time to switch distro. >> >> I'm looking for one that can do some development work. My favourite >> language is Perl, so it's got to be able to do that. Now, you're >> thinking all the distros come with Perl, so it's a minor point but I >> need to run the latest and greatest. Most distros come with Perl 5.10 >> (some still have 5.8) but I need to run 5.12 (stable) and 5.14 (beta). >> >> Any recommendations? >> >> >> > The whole point of working with Open Source is that when things don't > work as wish, you can fix it. Before you say "Why should I have to?" > think a little about things. > I guess when you have been lulled into complacency by distro after distro that just works flawlessly, something like Ubuntu 11.04 comes as a rude shock. I got burnt by 11.04 myself - rolled back my VM to 10.10 and will be rolling back my desktop when I get a chance. Luckily I haven't upgraded my main work machine yet. The only place I like it and continue to use it is on my wife's netbook, where unity actually helps. Here is what I found was broken - - random desktop crashes. no logs, just likely an X crash, followed by the login screen. Annoyances apart, this is a big productivity killer - major issues with Nvidia graphics (follow the threads/bug reports) - on my desktop with an Nvidia Graphics card, I did not get the bootup screen (though it did boot), and, more importantly, was not able to use a VT (black screen when switching out of X) - though I could type blindly and login, it just did not display anything - On first boot, X came up with Unity, but nothing was clickable (apparently a bug with the Nvidia 7300 series or something). Switched to the classic desktop - copy on select is broken - it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. I haven't had time to figure it out yet, but its another productivity killer. And its the little things like this that are driving me nuts - are they fixable? probably. Is it worth my time to dig into each one and fix them - no. I'd much rather go to a version that works or a different distribution. > Choosing a distribution based on supported versions of software is > wrong. Build and install the versions you want, on top of the > environment you like. Five years ago, your complaint about Ubuntu > 11.whatever would have resulted in your receipt of a bushel of tomatoes > via manual air shipping. People here have mellowed a lot since I was > active. > agreed on this point - if you want/need specific versions of software, you are better off installing them yourself than trying to find a distribution that has those specific versions > ./configure, make, make install was around long before apt-get or some > such GUI nonsense. > > Also, when it comes to development there is a lot to be said about > stepping back from the edge and working with versions in wide > distribution. Your installable base will be broader, and you won't force > clients into the same problems you are now encountering. > > YOU are the boss, not Canonical! Ain't their fault. > nope its not their fault (for coming up with a buggy, broken distribution), and worst-case you can get your money ($0) back. But they are in the market to make an easy to use, slick linux distribution and they have disappointed (me) tremendously with 11.04 --Raj. > > -- > Bill Strosberg > > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux mailing list > Linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca > http://oclug.on.ca/mailman/listinfo/linux