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--- Bruce R Miller <brucemiller1 [ at ] rogers [ dot ] com> wrote:

> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 08:15:02 -0500 (EST)
> From: Bruce R Miller <brucemiller1 [ at ] rogers [ dot ] com>
> Subject: Re: [OCLUG-Tech] partitioning problems
> To: Ralph Boland <rpboland [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com>
> CC: OCLUG Technical mailing List <linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca>
> 
> Short answer: install the Ubuntu package ntfsprogs and use the
> application ntfsresize
> 
> A little more detail:
> In this context, "volume" is equivalent to "block device" in
> Linux-speak. In the context of a hard disk, that means
> partition.
> 
> If I ever knew the technical reasons why, I have long since
> forgotten it, but it is in the nature of NTFS to spread data
> across the entire partition. Defragmenters do not usually
> touch
> this spread. They merely consolidate all files into contiguous
> blocks.
> 
> The manpage for ntfsresize claims that defragging is not
> necessary. Mistrustful soul that I am, I do it anyway. There
> is
> one commercial Windows defragger that _*does_* move everything
> to the beginning of the disk. It is PerfectDisk and is
> available
> from www.raxco.com. BTW, this product generally comes first in
> reviews of Windows defraggers. No need to buy; there is a
> 30-day
> trial which is fully functional, just time-limited.
> 
> Again, it goes without saying that any time you play with
> partitions and with partition boundaries, your data is at
> risk.
> Make sure that any data on the partition is adequately backed
> up. If you are just starting at a new job, this might not yet
> be
> an issue.
> 
> I believe that ntfsresize is on the Ubuntu install disk. Try
> Ctl-Alt-F2 for a root shell.
> 
> Any of the standard Linux partition utilities should show your
> disk layout, and if there is any unused space. The "missing"
> 20GB might be "hidden partitions" containing Windows disk
> images
> and manufacturers' utilities images. Large manufacturers
> typically save themselves pennies by putting images on the HD
> rather than providing media to the purchaser. A decent
> ncurses-based partition utility is cfdisk; but there is
> nothing
> wrong with gparted on the Ubuntu installer.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> --- Ralph Boland <rpboland [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi
> > For those of you who know me I should point out that I have
> > finally found a job, in Lethbridge Alberta.  I start work on
> > Monday.
> > 
> > Everyone at work except myself uses windows but I have been
> > allowed to use Linux as long as I am my own sys admin.
> > I will be the user of the machine 90-99% of the time.
> > 
> > So this weekend I am trying to do a dual boot of Ubuntu 7.10
> > for the first
> > time.
> > Eventually I need to create a shared area that I and others
> > can
> > both use but to keep things simple I did a dual boot without
> > creating a
> > shared area
> > (I have never partitioned a disk before).
> > 
> > Windows XP seems to use about 10G but even after multiple
> > defragmentations
> > it is spread out over appx.  40G.  Also, the windows
> > defragmentor only
> > references about 140G even though I have a 160G drive.
> > So when I installed ubuntu 7.10 I (thought I) set it to use
> > 95G of memory
> > (68%)
> > for Linux.
> > This was selected by moving an arrow selecting between 0 and
> > 100 %.
> > This didn't give me the result I expected.  Windows does run
> > but when I do a
> > 
> > df from ubuntu I see only about 60G of disk space (about 68%
> > of 95G)
> > and it seems I have a volume? of approximately 95G.
> > 
> > So now I am confused.
> > I assume that what I should do is run some kind of
> > partitioning program and
> > partition my 160G drive into:
> > 40G for windows (I would like it to be less, say 30G).
> > 30G for Linux (I would prefer 40G).
> > 90G for a shared space accessible by Windows and Linux.
> > 
> > I downloaded and burned the system rescue CD 
> > systemrescuecd-x86-0.43.iso.
> > Its documentation says I can use it to do the partition.
> > 
> > Must I partition my disk into volumes?  Any what is a volume
> > anyway?
> > Any explanation as to what things I did wrong much
> > appreciated.
> > Any explanation as to what I do now even more appreciated.
> > If I am provided with enough information by Sunday I will
> try
> > again then.
> > 
> > By the way, my work machine is a Dell with an Intel dual
> core,
> > 4G of memory
> > and a dual head graphics card (which I haven't got working
> > yet). A big
> > improvement over my home machine.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Ralph Boland
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca
> > http://oclug.on.ca/mailman/listinfo/linux
> > 
> 
> 
> --
> Bruce Miller
> Ottawa ON, Canada
> bruce [ at ] brmiller [ dot ] ca
> (613) 745-1151
> This message is from a webmail login and not from my regular
> mail system. It does not have my customary digital signature.
> 


--
Bruce Miller
Ottawa ON, Canada
bruce [ at ] brmiller [ dot ] ca
(613) 745-1151
This message is from a webmail login and not from my regular mail system. It does not have my customary digital signature.