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I have my BMO accounts and credit cards set to email and text me for any amounts withdrawn or charged over $100. Simple and gives a lot of peace of mind.

Stephen

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On Dec 7, 2025, 5:19 p.m., at 5:19 p.m., "rob [ at ] echlin [ dot ] ca via linux" <linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org> wrote:
>Another way of putting it is that BMO expects all accounts to be
>active,
>so you are always signing in to see other things and will automatically
>
>notice weird transactions.
>I assume you don't have paper statements.
>Just "getting" a paper statement would mean you had activity when you
>expected none.
>
>Paper statements can be useful.
>
>Alice
>
>On 2025-12-06 21:41, Ian! D. Allen via linux wrote:
>> This is a BMO-related rant; it is not Linux-related.
>>
>> Our community group uses BMO.  We are not happy.
>> We put on a Contact Improvisation Dance event annually up to 2019.
>> We were on pause for 2020 through 2024, so we didn't look at the
>> account.
>>
>> As we prepared to restart the event in 2025, we discovered that BMO
>had
>> let someone withdraw $4,000 from our account over two months in 2021,
>
>> when we weren't looking:
>>
>> 2021-04-21 Pre-Authorized Payment, PAYDIRECT BILLI MSP/DIV 400.00
>> 5,569.07
>> 2021-04-21 Pre-Authorized Payment, PAYDIRECT BILLI MSP/DIV 200.00
>> 5,369.07
>> 2021-04-21 Pre-Authorized Payment, PAYDIRECT BILLI MSP/DIV 50.00
>> 5,319.07
>> 2021-04-21 Pre-Authorized Payment, PAYDIRECT BILLI MSP/DIV 100.00
>> 5,219.07
>> 2021-05-17 Pre-Authorized Payment, PAYDIRECT BILLI MSP/DIV 200.00
>> 5,019.07
>> 2021-05-17 Pre-Authorized Payment, PAYDIRECT BILLI MSP/DIV 100.00
>> 4,919.07
>> 2021-05-17 Pre-Authorized Payment, PAYDIRECT BILLI MSP/DIV 200.00
>> 4,719.07
>> 2021-05-17 Pre-Authorized Payment, PAYDIRECT BILLI MSP/DIV 200.00
>> 4,519.07
>> 2021-05-17 Pre-Authorized Payment, PAYDIRECT BILLI MSP/DIV 50.00
>> 4,469.07
>> 2021-06-01 Pre-Authorized Payment, PAYDIRECT BILLI MSP/DIV 300.00
>> 4,166.57
>> 2021-06-01 Pre-Authorized Payment, PAYDIRECT BILLI MSP/DIV 300.00
>> 3,866.57
>> 2021-06-01 Pre-Authorized Payment, PAYDIRECT BILLI MSP/DIV 300.00
>> 3,566.57
>> 2021-06-01 Pre-Authorized Payment, PAYDIRECT BILLI MSP/DIV 300.00
>> 3,266.57
>> 2021-06-01 Pre-Authorized Payment, PAYDIRECT BILLI MSP/DIV 300.00
>> 2,966.57
>> 2021-06-01 Pre-Authorized Payment, PAYDIRECT BILLI MSP/DIV 300.00
>> 2,666.57
>> 2021-06-01 Pre-Authorized Payment, PAYDIRECT BILLI MSP/DIV 100.00
>> 2,566.57
>> 2021-06-01 Pre-Authorized Payment, PAYDIRECT BILLI MSP/DIV 300.00
>> 2,266.57
>> 2021-06-01 Pre-Authorized Payment, PAYDIRECT BILLI MSP/DIV 300.00
>> 1,966.57
>>
>> BMO said we were supposed to watch our bank account every five days
>in
>> case BMO might let some known fraud service take money out of our
>> account without our permission.  It's not up to BMO to keep our
>account
>> safe from fraud services (even though BMO charges us $2.50 every
>> month), it's up to us to watch it.  In May 2025 there were 438
>periods
>> of five days since we last used the account in 2019; BMO expected us
>to
>> sign on to our account 438 times (every five days) in the past six
>> years just to check that BMO hadn't allowed a fraud billing service
>to
>> take our money.
>>
>> I hope all you BMO users check all your bank accounts every five
>days.
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 06, 2025 at 05:50:57PM -0500, Jean-Francois Messier via
>> linux wrote:
>>> That's a bad move by BMO. I guess that the if and else parts of
>their
>>> algorithm have been swapped / inverted. I stopped using BMO a long
>>> time ago,
>>> way before the BMO name came out. I'm now with Tangerine and I am
>>> rather
>>> happy. On another note, I was the victim of a fraud of over $20,000
>>> from a
>>> customer of BMO. They did absolutely nothing about the account that
>>> stole the
>>> money. Tahberine and their team solved the problem and I got all my
>>> money
>>> back.
>
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