I haven't been following this thread but this may be relevant. I think longer (more characters) sort first regardless. Rename 200410PeterFrohn95thBirthday02withFamily.jpg To 2004100PeterFrohn95thBirthday02withFamily.jpg To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscribe [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org To get help send a blank message to linux+help [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org