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<p>If I can be allowed to pipe in on this discussion ...</p>
<p>To add one final question to all the points I raised in the email
snippet that I pasted (with snapshots of browser toolbar showing
site hosting countries) at the bottom,</p>
<blockquote>
<p><font color="#420094"><b><i>Have Canadians been stupid enough
to set themselves up, <br>
for the wrong reasons, handing over control of our
sovereinty<br>
such that the U.S. could just turn off a switch <br>
and Canada's Government be broken ?</i></b></font></p>
</blockquote>
<p><font color="#420094"> <br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094">Below are snapshots of sites for various
Canadian organizations/agencies/corporations/government, showing
the reported flag of country of cloud-host resicency! <b>VERY
ENLIGHTENING!<br>
</b></font></p>
<p><font color="#420094">I use the "Flagfox" plug-in available at</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://flagfox.wordpress.com/";>https://flagfox.wordpress.com/</a></font></p>
<p><font color="#420094">I strongly recommend everyone check their
own stuff and question you Preferred Service Providers, of all
stripes, why they are not fully hosted in Canada?</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094">Here are a few more snaps:</font></p>
<blockquote>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part1.9GaEH0Y0.bQUcIDo2@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part2.JUQSwvL2.OxVpNucM@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part3.sy08ZDkh.MNhopLQf@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part4.HhPFr8lY.GHap6jMz@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part5.VcfDgVU0.utrdYsKQ@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part6.drfJvP0v.hD5JmMM7@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part7.2w8moPZl.7Oht0do2@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part8.NaxDkwdJ.SCifJ00b@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part9.o9gQ509U.19BaEb7P@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part10.ckOCCUzh.SdvhixQS@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part11.STWPwVMu.voe5kH2l@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part12.6F2tJWVx.qcHgnEs2@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part13.803bnCRY.vJaw0yjl@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part14.mU2dt31W.CzR3N0cv@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part15.6O1qdk90.D3ekLEHu@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part16.GZNKB1ei.pkoPKwIF@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part17.zyG4Rm0D.EJ0w81Rt@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part18.Qn0jSqwJ.KkWAJGq2@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part19.d0ZvaJtH.Gc0n0POx@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part20.ZN6ksdXZ.Vh2Qw1Ll@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part21.3Spdsd1D.EbpV0jk3@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part22.VX6FJLjv.Jnn94HE4@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part23.SA1mrpCF.LDmVnAFp@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part24.UofjNz88.UIzahQ05@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part25.Ztjnjpn7.NOD0O4LI@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part26.2Uz0UNB3.W8i6q3sa@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part27.5fLuJ7NM.iFo07aOd@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part28.4xyUMOlw.exafRBjD@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part29.RF0e0iUn.5O3HEZHv@rogers.com" alt=""><br>
</font></p>
</blockquote>
<p><font color="#420094">Definitely not a pretty picture! </font>🙁</p>
<p> reminder of email snippet pasted at bottom (with snapshots of
more browser toolbars showing site hosting countries).</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p><font color="#420094">Eric Marceau, 69, retired</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"><b><br>
</b></font></p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2025-02-02 08:49, Michael P. Soulier
via linux wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:20250202135025 [ dot ] 3A1D261811 [ at ] mail [ dot ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org">
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<div dir="auto">Yeah.i figure I should visit first....</div>
<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="auto">On January 30, 2025 6:40:37 p.m. EST, Dianne
Skoll via linux <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org"><linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org></a> wrote:</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail"><div dir="auto">On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 18:32:26 -0500
"Michael P. Soulier via linux" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org"><linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org></a> wrote:
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"><div
dir="auto">I'm thinking of moving my VPS to Amsterdam. Feel's safer these days,
but that's likely just my rampant paranoia speaking.
</div></blockquote><div dir="auto">
I am 5% semi-seriously considering moving *myself* to The Netherlands.
Ik ben Nederlands aan het leren... dat is mijn Plan B...
Regards,
Dianne.
</div></pre>
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<td>(.... private ....)<br>
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<th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Date: </th>
<td>Thu, 2 Sep 2021 22:13:34 -0400</td>
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<th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">From: </th>
<td>Eric Marceau <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:ericmarceau [ at ] rogers [ dot ] com"><ericmarceau [ at ] rogers [ dot ] com></a></td>
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<th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">To: </th>
<td> (.... snip ....) <br>
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<br>
<p>Hello (.... snip ....) </p>
<p><br>
</p>
(.... snip .... unrelated material ...)
<p><font color="#420094">Before I go on to more important stuff, a
small detour, because I noticed this recently:</font></p>
<blockquote>
<p><img src="cid:part30.k4nVmd2u.f3P4u29p@rogers.com" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p><img src="cid:part31.ISAlTkJT.kOR2c0Qh@rogers.com" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p><img src="cid:part32.oyZLDFJD.MksGbohm@rogers.com" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p><img src="cid:part33.0VKACd5Q.r2He5PZX@rogers.com" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p><img src="cid:part34.wDZSQtgq.6kzcdJPW@rogers.com" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p><img src="cid:part35.0iGs0BRc.ijs6a0c0@rogers.com" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p><img src="cid:part36.I0PWXuX9.EIZfYRI3@rogers.com" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p><img src="cid:part37.MNPket0s.ouSuUEYp@rogers.com" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p><img src="cid:part38.1C8ewlyP.3OKXEJTP@rogers.com" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p><img src="cid:part39.F9AFumKe.SS14aL9d@rogers.com" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p><img src="cid:part40.ELmZpORm.Yjnz00t0@rogers.com" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p><img src="cid:part41.obV70kmF.I0yXHNKS@rogers.com" alt=""
class=""> <font size="+3">!!!</font><br>
</p>
<p><font color="#420094"><img
src="cid:part42.zlbDqJRO.DA4AhKXo@rogers.com" alt=""
class=""> <font size="+3"> 🙁</font></font></p>
</blockquote>
<p><font color="#420094">By now you are wondering why most large
Canadian Corporations have their systems hosted on US-based
cloud services.</font></p>
<p><font color="#420094"> <b>That is just wrong!</b></font></p>
<p><font color="#420094">However, knowing that the NDP is focused on
Canada, why would <b>your</b> Federal Party, choose to have its
web site hosted outside of Canada, shipping all those high-tech
jobs down south ???</font></p>
<font color="#420094"> I can imagine a whole spectrum of privacy
issues deriving from that.<br>
US laws are applicable to the content, NOT Canadian.<br>
Do you want US monitoring, possibly tampering with, internal
Canadian political instruments? <br>
Haven't they done so too much already ?<br>
<br>
On this point: data about and for Canadians SHOULD, AND MUST,
reside on servers physically located in Canada, and that data
should never find its way onto a system in the legal jurisdiction
of a foreign country. <b><br>
</b></font>
<p><font color="#420094"><b> And having government systems running
of a US-based cloud ???</b></font></p>
<font color="#420094"> <br>
</font>
<p><font color="#420094"> Food for serious thought ...</font></p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>(.... snip .... unrelated material ...)</p>
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