I am in agreement with JF Sincerely, Katie ________________________________ From: Jean-Francois Messier <jfmessier [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 4:50:33 PM To: Ian! D. Allen <idallen [ at ] idallen [ dot ] ca> Cc: Linux-Ottawa <linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org> Subject: Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration Attention : courriel externe | external email I would call this a MAJOR obstacle. If Freenet/NCF is hoping to get money from everyone joining this list on an annual basis, although OCLUG gave them thousands of dollars already, we should dissociate from Freenet/NCF. The decision to send the money to NCF was an honest mistake, but let's not keep our dependency on NCF. Who knows what else they will ask from the members in the future ? On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 4:37 PM Ian! D. Allen <idallen [ at ] idallen [ dot ] ca<mailto:idallen [ at ] idallen [ dot ] ca>> wrote: Re: - Yes, I'd call it an obstacle - I agree [...] Is not going to work. - I agree. While the money is not a problem for me it is sort of offensive. The new person joining does not have to pay this fee. Imagine this: "Hello and welcome to OCLUG. We have teamed up with the local Free-Net to sponsor a mailing list account for you so that you may participate in discussions around Linux and other Free-Libre Open Source Software [FLOSS]. We hope that at some point you become a paid-up member of OCLUG to help support this and other FLOSS projects. Welcome aboard." -- | Ian! D. Allen, BA-Psych, MMath-CompSci idallen [ at ] idallen [ dot ] ca<mailto:idallen [ at ] idallen [ dot ] ca> Ottawa CANADA | Home: www.idallen.com<http://www.idallen.com> Contact Improvisation Dance: www.contactimprov.ca<http://www.contactimprov.ca> | Former college professor of Free/Libre GNU+Linux @ teaching.idallen.com<http://teaching.idallen.com> | Improve democracy www.fairvote.ca<http://www.fairvote.ca> and defend digital freedom www.eff.org<http://www.eff.org> To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscribe [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org<mailto:linux%2Bunsubscribe [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org> To get help send a blank message to linux+help [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org<mailto:linux%2Bhelp [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org> To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org -- Geek, c'est ma nature Linux, c'est mon choix !