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1) What are your reasons for wanting to maintain a Corporation?<br>
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<p>2)What would the purpose of a Mastodon account? Would it replace
the mailing list, or as an additional service that duplicates
information on the mailing list? Everyone has email, not everyone
has mastodon. Email has stood the test of time - however flawed.<br>
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<p>Would all mastodon posts need to be approved by the board? I
doubt this group has "one voice" we would all agree on.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/04/2023 10:37, Katherine Mcmillan
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Hello all,</div>
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I realize that if I'm going to push for keeping the OCUUG alive,
I'm going to have to work on a strategy for this.</div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Between Tug, John,
Diane, Jean-Francois, Richard, (sorry, I'm not sure who all is
currently on the Board for the OLUG), Scott, and me, we should
have enough people for a full non-profit Board where
administrative tasks could be doled out in a reasonable way.
It sounds like Alayne could be a good fit for this as well.</span><br>
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I'd be willing to reach out to another *BSD contact of mine in
Ottawa who might be open to helping as well. Please bear in
mind that although it's a family of systems, as we all know,
when you say that something is "Linux focussed" there are a
whole bunch of great people that simply won't participate.
There are people in the *BSD community, for example, that wear
"I Love SystemD" tshirts as a sarcastic joke, and the other
developers laugh. However, in my experience, when you state
that something is "Unix focussed" it doesn't make a whole bunch
of Linux devs/users get up and leave, or wear sarcastic clothing
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I'm willing to promote the group at the local Universities, at
relevant conferences (ex. BSDCan), and in other appropriate
circles. I think we should consider making a Mastodon account
for the group on here: <a href="https://mstdn.ca/home";
id="LPNoLPOWALinkPreview_1" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://mstdn.ca/home</a>. I am
willing to take that on.</div>
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I think that we should keep an eye on who fills this: <a
href="https://bb.wd3.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/BlackBerry/job/Ottawa-Ontario/Open-Source-Analyst_20211653?source=indeed";
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Keeping in mind that Blackberry is heavily involved in QNX
development, and are actively trying to liaise with open source
communities.</div>
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Although, looking at the stats, I'm not sure:</div>
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<div>For the record, I am not an applicant for this.</div>
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Is anyone on the Illumos mailing lists?</div>
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Sincerely,</div>
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Katie</div>
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<b>From:</b> Scott Murphy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 31, 2023 17:06<br>
<b>To:</b> Katherine Mcmillan<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Linux-Ottawa<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th
2023
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<div class="" style="word-wrap:break-word;
line-break:after-white-space">OCUUG (later Ocbug) was mostly
social with occasional technical content. I think it started
as a technical group and eventually became more social, at
least that is my memory of it. I was not part of the early
years.
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<div class="">The old website is still up, sporting my mock
license plate: <a href="http://ocuug.on.ca";
data-auth="NotApplicable" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
data-loopstyle="link" moz-do-not-send="true">
http://ocuug.on.ca</a></div>
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<div class="">I may still have access to modify things, but
it was a very long time ago and might take me a while to
locate the credentials.</div>
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<div class="">Cheers,</div>
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<div class="">On Mar 31, 2023, at 15:30, Katherine
Mcmillan <<a href="mailto:kmcmi046 [ at ] uottawa [ dot ] ca"
data-auth="NotApplicable"
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Illumos would be a great one to include too.</div>
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-Katie</div>
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class="" style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri,
sans-serif"><b class="">From:</b> Katherine
Mcmillan <<a
href="mailto:kmcmi046 [ at ] uottawa [ dot ] ca"
data-auth="NotApplicable"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
data-loopstyle="link" moz-do-not-send="true">kmcmi046 [ at ] uottawa [ dot ] ca</a>><br
class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b> 31 March 2023 15:18<br
class="">
<b class="">To:</b> Richard Guy Briggs <<a
href="mailto:rgb [ at ] tricolour [ dot ] ca"
data-auth="NotApplicable"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
data-loopstyle="link" moz-do-not-send="true">rgb [ at ] tricolour [ dot ] ca</a>><br
class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b> Tug Williams <<a
href="mailto:tug [ dot ] williams [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com"
data-auth="NotApplicable"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
data-loopstyle="link" moz-do-not-send="true">tug [ dot ] williams [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com</a>>;
Linux-Ottawa <<a
href="mailto:linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org"
data-auth="NotApplicable"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
data-loopstyle="link" moz-do-not-send="true">linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org</a>><br
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<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [linux] OCLUG
meeting Thursday April 6th 2023</font>
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"OCUNIX"! That's awesome Richard - it wasn't
successful? When did it stop existing?</div>
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Doesn't the OCBUG have the same problem as the
OCLUG right now? Don't get me wrong, I would
go out to a Royal Oak and chat with Scott, Ian
and others anytime, but it isn't really a
formal group.</div>
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Sincerely,</div>
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Richard Guy Briggs <<a
href="mailto:rgb [ at ] tricolour [ dot ] ca"
data-auth="NotApplicable"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
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moz-do-not-send="true">rgb [ at ] tricolour [ dot ] ca</a>><br
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<b class="">Sent:</b> 31 March 2023 14:20<br
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<b class="">To:</b> Katherine Mcmillan <<a
href="mailto:kmcmi046 [ at ] uottawa [ dot ] ca"
data-auth="NotApplicable"
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data-loopstyle="link"
moz-do-not-send="true">kmcmi046 [ at ] uottawa [ dot ] ca</a>><br
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<b class="">Cc:</b> Tug Williams <<a
href="mailto:tug [ dot ] williams [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com"
data-auth="NotApplicable"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
data-loopstyle="link"
moz-do-not-send="true">tug [ dot ] williams [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com</a>>;
Linux-Ottawa <<a
href="mailto:linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org"
data-auth="NotApplicable"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
data-loopstyle="link"
moz-do-not-send="true">linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org</a>><br
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<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [linux] OCLUG
meeting Thursday April 6th 2023</font>
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<div class="x_x_PlainText">Attention :
courriel externe | external email<br
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On 2023-03-31 17:25, Katherine Mcmillan
wrote:<br class="">
> Hi Tug,<br class="">
><br class="">
> Just out of curiousity, has there
ever been any discussion about forming
an "Ottawa Unix User Group"? (although
"OUUG" sounds terrible, and it can't be
"CUUG" because that's already taken - I
suppose it could be "NCRUUG" or just
"CRUUG"). I ask for several reasons:<br
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OCUNIX used to exist, so did OCUUG.
They effectively became OCBUG.<br
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> 1. I'm currently on the Board of
Directors for EuroBSDCon (a *BSD
focussed international conference).<br
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> 2. BSDCan<<a
href="https://www.bsdcan.org/2023/";
data-auth="NotApplicable"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.bsdcan.org/2023/</a>>
is coming up in Ottawa!<br class="">
> 3. I recently attended a Calgary
Unix User Group (CUUG) meeting (thanks
all for including me if any of you are
on this list!) Theo de Raadt was
speaking, and that was really fantastic
to witness. It seemed like a successful
user group and approach.<br class="">
> 4. There are a number of people
based in Ottawa and Quebec that are *BSD
users/developers/advocates, and more
recently I've come across some QNX and
Darwin people. There seems to be
potential for a collaborative approach
to leveraging Unix and Unix-like
operating systems.<br class="">
><br class="">
> Sincerely,<br class="">
> Katie<br class="">
> ________________________________<br
class="">
> From: Tug Williams <<a
href="mailto:tug [ dot ] williams [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com"
data-auth="NotApplicable"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
data-loopstyle="link"
moz-do-not-send="true">tug [ dot ] williams [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com</a>><br
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> Sent: 31 March 2023 11:31<br
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> To: <a
href="mailto:linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org"
data-auth="NotApplicable"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
data-loopstyle="link"
moz-do-not-send="true">
linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org</a> <<a
href="mailto:linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org"
data-auth="NotApplicable"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
data-loopstyle="link"
moz-do-not-send="true">linux [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org</a>><br
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> Subject: [linux] OCLUG meeting
Thursday April 6th 2023<br class="">
><br class="">
> Attention : courriel externe |
external email<br class="">
><br class="">
> When: 7pm Thursday April 6th 2023<br
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> Where: <a
href="https://meet.jit.si/oclug_2023-04-06";
data-auth="NotApplicable"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
moz-do-not-send="true">
https://meet.jit.si/oclug_2023-04-06</a><br
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> Check the mailing list for
individuals hosting in-person clusters.<br
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><br class="">
> Request for volunteers to give
talks, short or long, for future
meetings - If you have a Linux related
presentation or demo you'd be
comfortable sharing with the group, or a
discussion topic you wish to introduce,
then please let us know.<br class="">
><br class="">
> We have a couple of talks, and a
proposed change that needs airing and
discussing...<br class="">
><br class="">
> Topics<br class="">
><br class="">
> 1) Discussion of the boards
proposal to dissolve the OCLUG
corporation (not the club, just the
not-for-profit corporation the board
believes has outlived is benefit)<br
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> 2) talk from Katie McMillan: "The
Princess and the Wacom One"<br class="">
> 3) talk from John Nash: "M1
Macintosh and floating point"<br
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><br class="">
><br class="">
> Proposal to dissolve corporation<br
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><br class="">
> Linux-Ottawa members are asked to
vote as per instructions below on the
dissolution of the Ontario
not-for-profit corporation "Ottawa
Carleton Linux Users Group" Ontario
Corporation number 1476767.<br class="">
><br class="">
> In that we have not organized
events requiring the structure and
resources of a corporation for some
years, the motivations for having a
corporation no longer apply.<br class="">
><br class="">
> This vote does NOT imply that
Linux-Ottawa will not continue. We
intend, with member support, to continue
the electronic mailing list and regular
virtual and hybrid meetings. However, we
have not had anyone step forward willing
to take on Board responsibilities, and
the current Board is not in a position
to carry out the legally required
administrative operations. A requirement
of dissolution is to transfer resources
to an organization with similar goals.
The National Capital Freenet has
indicated their willingness to accept a
donation. Moreover, they use and promote
open-source software and have suggested
that they would use some of the monies
to increase such activity. Note that we
could assist in such work, as some of us
are already NCF members and supporters.<br
class="">
><br class="">
> Assuming the vote is positive, an
agent will be engaged to handle the
technical details. One such agency has
indicated willingness, with a fee under
$400.<br class="">
><br class="">
> Note that there is no Plan B unless
some members step up with a viable plan
that can get majority member approval in
a recorded vote.<br class="">
><br class="">
> The motion is as follows:<br
class="">
><br class="">
> We, the members of the "Ottawa
Carleton Linux Users Group" Ontario
Corporation number 1476767 are in favour
of dissolution of that corporation and
transfer of residual money to the
National Capital Freenet.<br class="">
><br class="">
> Procedure:<br class="">
><br class="">
> All members who have responded to
the request to provide their legal name
before March 27, 2023, are eligible to
vote. A ballot will be sent by email
from
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href="mailto:secretary [ at ] linux-ottawa [ dot ] org"
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to each such person on or before April
6. Voting will close at 11:59pm on April
6th EDT. You may vote before the April
6th meeting, or wait for the discussions
at that meeting.<br class="">
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slainte mhath, RGB<br class="">
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