perusing o'reilly's "bash pocket reference" for all of the little bash tips and tricks i'd never heard of, and ran across this WRT file descriptors; apparently, bash supports assignment of a new file descriptor to a named variable, while giving that new fd the next available open fd number from 10 and up. example: $ echo foo {foofd}> /tmp/foo.out foo $ what the above apparently does is that it still echoes "foo" to stdout, but as a side effect, it opens a new file descriptor (in this case, 10), i guess associated with the output file /tmp/foo.out. there's nothing *in* /tmp/foo.out, but i can see the new fd value: $ echo ${foofd} 10 $ at this point, it seems i can write into the output file /tmp/foo.out with: $ echo test1 >&10 $ cat /tmp/foo.out test1 $ but it would make more sense to be able to use the named fd, would it not? however, it doesn't appear i can do this: $ echo test2 >&{foofd} $ cat /tmp/foo.out test1 $ so there was no error, but that seemed to have no effect. however, if i treat it as a variable (which i suspect i'm supposed to): $ echo test2 >&${foofd} $ cat /tmp/foo.out test1 test2 $ it *appends* to the file, which is not what i was expecting. can anyone clarify the proper use of this construct, and particularly if they use it on a regular basis for something useful? rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ========================================================================