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Re: [OCLUG-Tech] where are we going is the question, not where are we meeting was Re: AGM - discussing change

  • Subject: Re: [OCLUG-Tech] where are we going is the question, not where are we meeting was Re: AGM - discussing change
  • From: John C Nash <nashjc [ at ] uottawa [ dot ] ca>
  • Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:03:15 -0400
A minor note: the rather unofficial Ubuntu group celebrates releases at Atomic Rooster. It
is a reasonable spot for a brunch get-together for a modest group.

JN

On 03/25/2012 11:57 AM, Jeff Moncrieff wrote:
> I am not going to be attending as I just moved. To Vancouver so I am joining vanlug But if I may suggest a meeting place the atomic roster on bank it in the middle of the city.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2012-03-25, at 8:48 AM, Paul Belanger <paul [ dot ] belanger [ at ] polybeacon [ dot ] com> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Charles MacDonald <cmacd [ at ] zeusprune [ dot ] ca> wrote:
>>> On 12-03-23 02:20 PM, Jean-Francois Messier wrote:
>>>> As it was stated previously in this thread, there is no single location
>>>> that will please everyone. Ottawa-Gatineau is a large area. ......
>>>> Another idea, is that we pick locations in different places, sometime
>>>> more on the west, sometime more on the east of Ottawa. But I realize
>>>> this requires more time and efforts from the board, managing each
>>>> meeting location individually.
>>>
>>> I should put in my two cents worth as well.  To have a physical meeting,
>>> requires that there be some folks who are interested enough to overcome
>>> whatever barriers are in their way of attending.
>>>
>> +1
>>
>> Honestly, I don't really care where the location is.  For me, if the
>> topic is interesting enough or a GPG key-signing event is going on (I
>> have to drive to MTL soon for a Debian key-sign), that is enough
>> motivation for me to jump in my car and drive.
>>
>> My vote, pick the 3 top locations and everybody vote on them.
>> Regardless of the winner, I am offering up my services to set up an
>> Asterisk box with audio and video conferencing support.  Assuming we
>> can get access to a VM / bare metal machine to set up it up on.
>>
>>> Since we are spread out in a city that is so big that we have more cows
>>> than people, (thank you Mike Harris) it is likely that no one physical
>>> location will be suitable to more than half of the interested folks.  It
>>> is even more likly when we consider that a lot of the folks who are
>>> close to OCLUG are from the Bike all year, use transit, down-town cliff
>>> dweller Group, while others are suburban high-tech folks who have so
>>> many time commitments that they even get their breakfast in their car.
>>>
>>> I am a Stittsvillan, and so as far as I am concerned Merivale Road is in
>>> the Far East and requires an epic hazard fought journey to visit.  :)
>>> (which explains my absence at OCLUG since the long ago times when the
>>> Legendary Andrew Hutton ran Achilles Net
>>>
>>> SO LETS TURN THE QUESTION AROUND :)
>>>
>>> How can we make the meetings worth the effort to attend.
>>>
>>> Beside socializing, (vital for any organization of this type)
>>>
>>> {This is not a trivial question, the folks running the Linux Symposium,
>>> perhaps the most important Linux even in Canada, are basically asking
>>> the same questions.}
>>>
>>>
>>> Are we
>>>
>>> - Trying to get folks to switch from Windos to Ubuntu?
>>> - trying to get our managers to use decent software at work?
>>> - Trying to make the world a safe place for Linux (and BSD And ETC>)
>>> - Trying to solve our day to day problems
>>> - Trying to learn to be a better Programmer
>>> - Trying to get skills that will make us more employable.
>>> - Tying to prove we have those skills.
>>> - Trying to become the worlds best Kernel hacker
>>> - Trying to enlist high school and University computer students to
>>> become involved in fixing bugs in teh software we use.
>>>
>>> <That is the list I could think of for potential motivations>
>>>
>>> Depending on what is the motivation for a given meeting the ideal
>>> location may change.  Even the economics of holding the meeting may
>>> change.  If the purpose of the meeting is something that a business
>>> owner feels that it would be worthwhile ot support, meeting rooms with
>>> coffee and doughnuts will magically appear.
>>>
>>> As far as places we can meet for free, the continuing clamp down on
>>> Public sector budgets has made it much more difficult to get free
>>> meeting space.  I can recall going to various meetings at places liek
>>> NRC on Sussex, and various museums - I suspect that they are all no
>>> lobger offered.  One club I used to belong to used the Meeting room at
>>> the Ottawa Citizen , but again I don't knwo if that is still offered.  I
>>> suspect that High Schools and community centers are also on a pay as you
>>> go bassis.
>>>
>>> The idea location should have both Transit way access, free parking (or
>>> at least not tricky inexpensive pay parking near the venue.) And also
>>> Bike pathway availability .
>>>
>>> BUT depending on teh meeting purpose, a less than Ideal location may
>>> still draw out the hard core Geeks, while you may need to do far more to
>>> interest casual computer users to switch from the junk that comes on
>>> their new computer.
>>
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