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When you can ping other machines via internal IP addresses (on the same switched network), you're not really using dns. You're actually using arp tables that uses the layer two addressing within your client operating system. (MAC addresses) Internally, you are just using the router's switching side and not routing traffic out to other networks. ie. internet perhaps in your case.

It's hard to provide a solid answer or recommendation with the information provided but in a nutshell, it would be very handy to post your network information on the troubled devices. In windows, ipconfig /all or in linux, refer to the network sections here: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-command-to-gathers-up-information-about-a-linux-system.html If you have other device types, just google on how to obtain a complete network view on it.

What do the devices that have trouble connecting to external networks have in common? Example: Are they all on wireless and the others are not? Are these clients configured correctly for your network? Are they all located upstairs/downstairs; static or dynamic ip?

I read a bit in the thread below about possible dhcp service pains - you can certainly bypass that by manually specifying a static IP on any device within your network. If you post the network information for one of your working clients, I can tell you a safe IP configuration for you to use. (outside of the DHCP typical address scope)

Cheers,
Jeff



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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 14:26:05 -0500
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Have you found the problem yet?

My Linksys router had a problem where if it was running for a few days without a power cycle the DHCP service would crash so any new machine or phone trying to lease an IP wouldn't be able to but those already issued IP's worked fine. Power cycle the router and it would work, annoying as hell but finally they issued new firmware that fixed this.


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Subject: Re: [OCLUG-Tech] need help solving an issue with my network



Do the machines with DNS problems get their IP addresses via
DHCP?  Do they get their nameserver info from DHCP as well?

If so, is DHCP still working?  DHCP-assigned addesses have
to be renewed via leases.

Maybe the kids machines/phones DHCP leases expired before
the other leases ...

Have you done an upgrade lately?  Changes to the firewall?

You can use the dig command to direct DNS queries to a particular
DNS server:

     dig @server.to.query domain.to.ask.about
     dig @server.to.query domain.to.ask.about NS

Hope this helps - do send more questions if you have them.

bjb


On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 11:55:53AM -0500, ed stuckems wrote:
Folks:

This may be slightly off-topic, so I hope you'll consider this request
for help appropriate for this list.

My home network is suddenly misbehaving and after poking around a bit
I'm at a loss to explain why things aren't working and I can't seem to
fix the problem.  Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.

Here's the problem ... My kids' computers recently stopped serving web
pages.  After poking around a bit, it appears that dns requests from
their machines aren't being resolved.  Poking around more, I've
discovered that the game consoles and the android based phone aren't
working either and I suspect it's for the same reasons.  The phone
worked on the wifi network as recently as last week.  However, there
are machines on the network that are working!   My linux box, mac book
pro (running Mac OSX), iPad, and Windows Vista computers are all
working.

All the machines are able to access internal machines/servers/services
via ip address (I'm not using dns for internal servers) and everything
internal can be pinged and is able to ping (most) everything else.  On
those machines that aren't working, nslookup is not able to resolve
host names and nslookup returns stating that the dns server(s) timed
out.

There are 2 dns servers provided to clients on the network: the
caching server on the router, and the dns server provided by my
service provider.  nslookup reports time outs for both servers.

I'm at a loss to explain what's happening and any advice or guidance
for correcting the issue would be greatly appreciated.

regards
eds.
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