totally forgot about one more development kit i have sitting at the back of the closet: freescale zoom coldfire eval board: http://www.logicpd.com/products/system-on-modules/zoom-coldfire-evb/ this one's fairly sizable and has never actually been used. i don't see any immediate need for this so, once again, if someone has a legitimate use for it, drop me a note. rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ========================================================================