given that summer is typically a slow time and i'm not sure how seriously people take these summer meetings, i have a suggestion. i'm in the process of writing a 2-hr tutorial for beginners on linux kernel programming for this year's linuxcon in vancouver: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon/day and i wouldn't mind doing a test run first. since it's supposed to be 2 hours max, that would fit nicely into a meeting evening, even though i know i gave a kernel programming tutorial not that long ago so that might be overly repetitive to do it at the august meeting. if there's a venue somewhere, i'd like to give that test run sometime in the first week of august, so if someone wants to recommend a location that makes sense, let me know. rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ========================================================================