if anyone wanted to come by the http://thecodefactory.ca before the kernel geek-up, i'm here and you can just pop in and make yourself comfortable and work (there's wireless) until the geek-up officially starts. rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ========================================================================