All I know, is DRM can be done right or done wrong from the eyes of Free Software world. Right, includes fair use and the ability to use the codec/library on your choice of device, sort of how lower in the OSI model tcp/ip and secure tunnelling is permit between devices of differing vendor, with appropriate RFC exposed to the community. (Demand Universality - Win, Lin, Mac, BSD, hand-held!) If an Ottawa company wishes to get ahead they should use a codec/library which runs on multiple platforms which I would suggest may in-fact be politically correct in the Linux / OSS world, if not in binary or source format, then at least with the publication of protocol and community review. This acts double-time in the DRM world as it helps spread the specification / cryptographic standard and convinces the security community on the merits/detractors which for media protection is crucial. Certain local operations were right to have invest already in R&D. This when they have a choice how much to Publish, and what to keep internal to IP profile. They don't have to expose it all, but must provide something to anchor on, much as Real Networks managed to get ahead by offering multiple clients and specification of the server/streaming. Perhaps the source for basic library handling of secure content format, whilst keeping the advanced stuff commercial. Then DRM is not such the big lock-in beast you'd expect and will help them make the authors secure and bring use-able paid content to the world. I don't work with 'em, but I know enough about the class of companies to say do the right thing and Publish to IETF or other standards body for Global scrutiny. If there is portion which cannot be published, what is the security model? Is it a matter of early bird to chirp on the digital sphere wins first recognition? - Allan Fields, AFRSL (This API is most certainly NOT available in stores.) Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network -----Original Message----- From: linux-request [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca Sender: linux-bounces [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 12:00:02 To: <linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca> Reply-To: linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca Subject: Linux Digest, Vol 73, Issue 10 Send Linux mailing list submissions to linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://oclug.on.ca/mailman/listinfo/linux or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to linux-request [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca You can reach the person managing the list at linux-owner [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Linux digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Fwd: Your message to Linux awaits moderator approval (Rick) 2. Re: Google drops H264 (Rick) 3. Re: Fwd: Your message to Linux awaits moderator approval (Lisa) 4. Re: Build systems job at Irdeto (Lisa L) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:38:44 -0500 From: Rick <graham [ dot ] rick [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> Subject: [OCLUG-Tech] Fwd: Your message to Linux awaits moderator approval To: OCLUG tech list <linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca> Message-ID: <AANLkTi=dEyDb+FviKgaiORvpN5aNSDoNsbhMBEL+KOCr [ at ] mail [ dot ] gmail [ dot ] com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What does "implicit destination" mean? I BCC'd the list because it suited me to do so. Is this not good? OTOH, maybe this does not belong here, Linux advocacy == open standards advocacy (in my book.) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <linux-bounces [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca> Date: Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:33 PM Subject: Your message to Linux awaits moderator approval To: graham [ dot ] rick [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com Your mail to 'Linux' with the subject ? ?Re: Google drops H264 Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: ? ?Message has implicit destination Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. ?If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: ? ?http://oclug.on.ca/mailman/confirm/linux/fc075f460fff1133d73b4c1bf311571b5a219685 -- Cheers! Rick Bullwinkle:??? You just leave that to my pal.? He's the brains of the outfit. General:??? What does that make YOU? Bullwinkle:??? What else?? An executive. ??? ??? -- Jay Ward ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:33:10 -0500 From: Rick <graham [ dot ] rick [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> Subject: Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Google drops H264 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-ID: <AANLkTinQGkD8v0KHuJ4sNxx+bOqSqYrkqvW0usa=Cfdz [ at ] mail [ dot ] gmail [ dot ] com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hah! Just when you thought Google was getting too evil. I like the nice black and white explanation. On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Frank Lenk wrote: > Wow... looks like the tide may be turning: > > http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-01-google-chrome-browser-h264.html > > > ............ Frank. > > -- Cheers! Rick Bullwinkle:??? You just leave that to my pal.? He's the brains of the outfit. General:??? What does that make YOU? Bullwinkle:??? What else?? An executive. ??? ??? -- Jay Ward ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 03:46:20 +0000 From: "Lisa" <exexpat2 [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> Subject: Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Fwd: Your message to Linux awaits moderator approval To: "Rick" <graham [ dot ] rick [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com>, "OCLUG tech list" <linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca> Message-ID: <1567301365-1295063181-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry [ dot ] rim [ dot ] net-466959303- [ at ] bda092 [ dot ] bisx [ dot ] prod [ dot ] on.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Hi Rick, Messages with BCCs get flagged for moderation as an anti-spam measure. BCCing is not necessarily bad, per se, but it does mean your message will get held back from the list until it's approved. I think many here would agree (I do) that open standards are key to the spread of free/open software. This topic is appropriate and has been raised many times with regard to other similar developments. Thank you for spreading the news. Cheers, Lisa Sent from my BlackBerry device -----Original Message----- From: Rick <graham [ dot ] rick [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> Sender: linux-bounces [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:38:44 To: OCLUG tech list<linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca> Subject: [OCLUG-Tech] Fwd: Your message to Linux awaits moderator approval What does "implicit destination" mean? I BCC'd the list because it suited me to do so. Is this not good? OTOH, maybe this does not belong here, Linux advocacy == open standards advocacy (in my book.) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <linux-bounces [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca> Date: Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:33 PM Subject: Your message to Linux awaits moderator approval To: graham [ dot ] rick [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com Your mail to 'Linux' with the subject ? ?Re: Google drops H264 Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: ? ?Message has implicit destination Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. ?If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: ? ?http://oclug.on.ca/mailman/confirm/linux/fc075f460fff1133d73b4c1bf311571b5a219685 -- Cheers! Rick Bullwinkle:??? You just leave that to my pal.? He's the brains of the outfit. General:??? What does that make YOU? Bullwinkle:??? What else?? An executive. ??? ??? -- Jay Ward _______________________________________________ Linux mailing list Linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca http://oclug.on.ca/mailman/listinfo/linux ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:17:19 -0600 From: Lisa L <exexpat2 [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> Subject: Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Build systems job at Irdeto To: rob [ at ] echlin [ dot ] ca Cc: linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca Message-ID: <AANLkTi=kCC-C5sCsETE8JV+YBLuc+ujE8Jk_YwqhGhz2 [ at ] mail [ dot ] gmail [ dot ] com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thank you, Rob, for the post and the political heads-up. I believe the issue is that Mailman strips HTML out of posts. Cheers, Lisa On 13 January 2011 09:54, Rob Echlin <rob [ at ] echlin [ dot ] ca> wrote: > Thanks, Lisa. > The link was in the HTML, so it's not visible if you are using a text-mode > mail reader. > > Here is the link, which will probably break over 3 lines. > > http://hostedjobs.openhire.com/epostings/submit.cfm?fuseaction=app.jobinfo&id=23&jobid=290691&company_id=15718&version=3&source=ONLINE&JobOwner=1011688&level=levelid1&levelid1=20578&parent=Engineering/Development&startflag=2 > > As Spencer pointed out to me, Irdeto provides data protection services - I > think they bought, or were formerly named, "Cloakware". And they provide > DRM tools. So the more politically active here will not find this company a > useful choice of employer. Sorry for not mentioning this earlier, I hadn't > checked the site - I was contacted by a former co-worker about the position. > > > Rob > > -- > Rob Echlin, B. Eng. > 613-266-8311 - Ottawa, ON > Blog: http://talksoftware.wordpress.com/ > - I am a software developer and proponent of Agile Software Development > processes. > - Agile delivers: faster to market, higher quality, what the customer > actually needs. More satisfying, more fun! > > > --- On *Wed, 1/12/11, Lisa L <exexpat2 [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com>* wrote: > > > From: Lisa L <exexpat2 [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com> > Subject: Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Build systems job at Irdeto > To: rob [ at ] echlin [ dot ] ca > Cc: linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca > Received: Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 4:10 PM > > > Hi Rob, it looks like the link is missing. > > Lisa > > > On 12 January 2011 08:33, Rob Echlin <rob [ at ] echlin [ dot ] ca<http://mc/compose?to=rob [ at ] echlin [ dot ] ca>> > wrote: > > Hi > > I heard about a build systems job. > > Job Link > > > > Additional notes on the job: > > " I need someone with hacking experience on the mobile phone front (in > > addition to the job description) such as iphone, android and blackberry. > > Someone who would enjoy taking things apart and tinker with things I > > guess. This part of the job may fall under IT in some companies but we > > support development in the build team. " > > > > Rob > > -- > > Rob Echlin, B. Eng. > > 613-266-8311 - Ottawa, ON > > Blog: http://talksoftware.wordpress.com/ > > - I am a software developer and proponent of Agile Software Development > processes. > > - Agile delivers: faster to market, higher quality, what the customer > actually needs. More satisfying, more fun! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux mailing list > > Linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca <http://mc/compose?to=Linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca> > > http://oclug.on.ca/mailman/listinfo/linux > > > > > > -- > One only needs two tools in life: WD-40 to make things go, and duct > tape to make them stop. ~ G. Weilacher > Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it > holds the universe together. ~ Carl Zwanzig > > > -- One only needs two tools in life: WD-40 to make things go, and duct tape to make them stop. ~ G. Weilacher Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together. ~ Carl Zwanzig ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Linux mailing list Linux [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca http://oclug.on.ca/mailman/listinfo/linux End of Linux Digest, Vol 73, Issue 10 *************************************