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RE: [OCLUG-Tech] [OT] E-mail Gods Not Smiling

I will get back to you in a couple of days, once I confirm our setup at our
soccer office.

-----Original Message-----
From: BB [mailto:brianjbarber [ at ] gmail [ dot ] com] 
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 5:36 PM
To: Nick D'Angelo Competitive Head Coach; OCLUG Technical
Subject: Re: [OCLUG-Tech] [OT] E-mail Gods Not Smiling

Good question, Nick. It's Bellnet.  Calling it Sympatico was a slip on my
part.

BB

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Nick D'Angelo Competitive Head Coach
<assistantheadcoach [ at ] goulbournsoccer [ dot ] ca> wrote:
> Quick question, is it Sympatico service or is it Bellnet service?
>
> The configurations are different as I have experienced both of them.
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-bounces [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca
> [mailto:linux-bounces [ at ] lists [ dot ] oclug [ dot ] on [ dot ] ca] On Behalf Of OddSox
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 3:12 PM
> To: BB
> Cc: OCLUG Technical
> Subject: Re: [OCLUG-Tech] [OT] E-mail Gods Not Smiling
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>
> On Jul 7, 2008, at 2:52 PM, BB wrote:
>
>> I'm supporting a small office network.  The office just moved and in
>> the process they changed ISPs from Rogers to Bell (Sympatico for
>> Business).  The way I had things set up at the old office, which was
>> blessed by Rogers, was to have all users downloading their e-mail
>> (POP3) from individual accounts at their hosting provider and sending
>> outgoing (SMTP) mail using Rogers' mail servers.  I've been trying to
>> set things up the same way at the new office, but have only been 50%
>> successful.
>>
>> Incoming mail (POP3) from the hosting provider works perfectly - no
>> problems there.  Sending mail through Bell does not work.  When I send
>> a message (and I have sent dozens to many different addresses),
>> regardless of the mail client, no authentication or transmission
>> errors are reported; the messages go into the ether and never come
>> out.  I have tried everything, including calling Bell Sympatico
>> technical support.  The support technician walked me through a bunch
>> of troubleshooting exercises, and this is what we concluded:
>>
>> 1. We have been setting up the accounts correctly.  The technician
>> confirmed that we don't need to have a username and password for
>> outgoing mail (SMTP Auth), (this surprised me because Rogers requires
>> it.) and there are no special ports for mail. (Bell's STMP listens on
>> port 25).
>> 2. The username and password are correct.
>> 3. Messages can be sent using Bell Sympatico web mail.
>>
>> Before calling Bell I deleted the e-mail account settings and created
>> two new accounts that both send messages using Bell Sympatico: one for
>> the branch manager that downloads his personal e-mail from the hosting
>> provider, and one that downloads e-mail from the primary address that
>> Bell Sympatico assigned to the account.  Again, I could download
>> e-mail from each provider, but could not send.  I am concluding that
>> the issue is with Bell and that somehow our messages are being dropped
>> on their network.  The issue is that I haven't found the right person
>> at Bell who can confirm that there is something going on with their
>> network.
>>
>> I'm anxious to hear from those of you out there who are using
>> Sympatico who support a similar set up either at home or at work.
>> I've been doing this kind of thing for more years than I care to
>> admit, and I'm stumped.  There must be things I'm overlooking.  I'm
>> wide open to suggestions.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Brian
>> _______________________________________________
>
> What if you telnet to their server and speak SMTP directly to it? At
> least you'll confirm that their server is accepting mail or you may
> get useful error messages...
>
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