I got a bad disk and trying to copy whatever I can from it to another disk with "dd conv=noerror ..." but ran in to a problem with infinite retries. I start it and it runs for a while, find a bad spot, reports it, moves on, just as I expected. Then it comes to some spot where it seems to be a bit worse and no it hangs and the only way out is reboot. I did "strace -p pid_of_dd" and left if for some H but not one command was passed /var/log/messages shows how the kernel reads on block/sector 1-8 times, then moves on to next and so on. I left it over night and the only thing that happened was that the log was counting higher. I powered off the disk (external eSata case) and it still doesn't release. What's up with the kernel retrying all the time. Since it kept on retrying even with the disk off I'm guessing it would probably keep on going until the max sector# is reach. What can I do to have it to try a few times and then move on? Is there some other program that I can read the disk with then dd ? I'm running OpenSuse 10.1 with kernel 2.6.16.21-0.13 Sample from messages Sep 17 21:07:08 picard kernel: ata2: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/04 Sep 17 21:07:08 picard kernel: ata2: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Sep 17 21:07:08 picard kernel: ata2: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError } Sep 17 21:07:08 picard kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x8000002 Sep 17 21:07:08 picard kernel: sdb: Current: sense key: Medium Error Sep 17 21:07:08 picard kernel: Additional sense: Unrecovered read error - auto reallocate failed Sep 17 21:07:08 picard kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 10290296 Sep 17 21:07:08 picard kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 1286287 Sep 17 21:07:12 picard kernel: ata2: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/04 Sep 17 21:07:12 picard kernel: ata2: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Sep 17 21:07:12 picard kernel: ata2: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError } Sep 17 21:07:16 picard kernel: ata2: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/04 Sep 17 21:07:16 picard kernel: ata2: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Sep 17 21:07:16 picard kernel: ata2: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError } Sep 17 21:07:20 picard kernel: ata2: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/04 Sep 17 21:07:20 picard kernel: ata2: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Sep 17 21:07:20 picard kernel: ata2: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError } Sep 17 21:07:24 picard kernel: ata2: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/04 Sep 17 21:07:24 picard kernel: ata2: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Sep 17 21:07:24 picard kernel: ata2: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError } Sep 17 21:07:27 picard kernel: ata2: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/04 Sep 17 21:07:27 picard kernel: ata2: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Sep 17 21:07:27 picard kernel: ata2: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError } Sep 17 21:07:31 picard kernel: ata2: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/04 Sep 17 21:07:31 picard kernel: ata2: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Sep 17 21:07:31 picard kernel: ata2: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError } Sep 17 21:07:31 picard kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x8000002 Sep 17 21:07:31 picard kernel: sdb: Current: sense key: Medium Error Sep 17 21:07:31 picard kernel: Additional sense: Unrecovered read error - auto reallocate failed Sep 17 21:07:31 picard kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 10290304 Sep 17 21:07:31 picard kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 1286288 Sep 17 21:07:35 picard kernel: ata2: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/04 Sep 17 21:07:35 picard kernel: ata2: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Sep 17 21:07:35 picard kernel: ata2: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError } Sep 17 21:07:39 picard kernel: ata2: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/04 Sep 17 21:07:39 picard kernel: ata2: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Sep 17 21:07:39 picard kernel: ata2: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError } Sep 17 21:07:43 picard kernel: ata2: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/04 Sep 17 21:07:43 picard kernel: ata2: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Sep 17 21:07:43 picard kernel: ata2: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError } Sep 17 21:07:46 picard kernel: ata2: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/04 Sep 17 21:07:46 picard kernel: ata2: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Sep 17 21:07:46 picard kernel: ata2: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError } Sep 17 21:07:50 picard kernel: ata2: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/04 Sep 17 21:07:50 picard kernel: ata2: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Sep 17 21:07:50 picard kernel: ata2: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError } BTW, what's the diff between sector and block? I thought I knew but looking in the log the numbers doesn't make sense. Sector 10290296= block 1286287 -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Techwiz, Peter Sjoberg PGP key (12F506C8) on keyserver & homepage Key fingerprint = 3DC2 CEBA 1590 B41A 3780 955A DB42 02BB 12F5 06C8 mailto:peters AT techwiz.ca http://www.techwiz.ca/~peters