Hey, I've got an odd problem that comes up with one url, www.taigtools.com . When I point programs like elinks, wget, mozilla, or konqueror at taigtools.com on my debian laptop, debian desktop, or the remote debian server I'm ssh'ed into, they timeout. On my zaurus pda, my wife's apple, or a second redhat server I'm ssh'ed into, no problem. What could the problem be? It took me a while to pin this much down. The debian server is a recent debian server at vpslink.com, running Linux version 2.6.8-022stab078.14-enterprise (root [ at ] kern268 [ dot ] build [ dot ] sw [ dot ] ru) (gcc version 3.3.3 20040412 (Red Hat Linux 3.3.3-7)) #1 SMP Wed Jul 19 16:24:18 MSD 2006 and seems to be a fresh sarge install. The debian desktop is running Linux version 2.6.17 (root@Knoppix) (gcc version 4.0.4 20060507 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.3-3)) #4 SMP PREEMPT Wed May 10 13:53:45 CEST 2006 and is an unstable install off a recent knoppix disk. The redhat server is Linux version 2.4.29-grsec (root [ at ] chrome [ dot ] nocdirect [ dot ] com) (gcc version 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.3 2.96-113)) #1 SMP Fri Feb 4 15:36:57 CST 2005 And the zaurus is running 2.6.15 . Is it some debian anti-machinetool thing? Regards, -Sebastien Bailard